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The problem of China - Bertrand Russell. Published in 1922. It's not recent but is an incredible insight for the era and forward thinking piece. It is incredibly relevant today.
A book from 1922? That's back during the Republican era, pre-civil war. I think any resource from before 30 years ago is totally irrelevant in today's setting, except maybe to explain how Chinese modern history developed.
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The problem of China - Bertrand Russell. Published in 1922. It's not recent but is an incredible insight for the era and forward thinking piece. It is incredibly relevant today.
A book from 1922? That's back during the Republican era, pre-civil war. I think any resource from before 30 years ago is totally irrelevant in today's setting, except maybe to explain how Chinese modern history developed.
Now I need to be convinced it is not a deepfake
I think the whole point of the messaging is to make it obvious what’s happened without explicitly saying it and a deepfake doesn’t help with that. If they had done something worse they would have done it deliberately and would want to prove it. Kind of like when the Russians assassinate some dissident and go on their news to say “we absolutely deny the allegations that so and so was assassinated but I guess it just shows what happens when you are a traitor”
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Please don't break the site guidelines like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
How appropriate, people being told to shut up on a post about people being made to shut up. Dammit dang, downvote abuse is a real issue. The very fact that people keep bringing this up should clue you in. Once or twice, okay maybe it's the complainer's perception that's wrong, but again and again, for over a year? Then your damn system has a problem. The least you could do to address it is not let downvotes instantly…
Maintaining these rules allow dang@co to maintain the position of control over what happen in HN. The corollary is that changing them will dilute their control. They found a local maximum of discourse level and they keep it that way.
The justification that the discourse on HN is maintained at a high level by not talking about the rules is at least condescending to the participants.
It doesn't matter to them if they lose you on these grounds since talking about the rules appears only on extremes which are shallow in a normal distribution. They will lose the few participants that care enough about that while maintaining those in the middle. (Of course, cutting of the extremes will grow newer ones in the empty space but I digress...).
What happens with time is that people adjust their discourse to the middle ground making it void of any new or interesting information. Thus, HN becomes an echo chamber of mainstream ideas and people will leave when they got bored enough of the same thing. We're already there and @dang is more vocal now because he knows it.
Now I need to be convinced it is not a deepfake
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The problem of China - Bertrand Russell. Published in 1922. It's not recent but is an incredible insight for the era and forward thinking piece. It is incredibly relevant today.
How do you know it is relevant? TBH like most westerners, most Chinese don't even understand how CCP works. I surely won't trust a book written in 1922.
That's on purpose, the first test of getting power to work for you is an intelligence and ambition check: can you focus enough ability for long enough to sniff out where the networks of power are ?
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Please don't break the site guidelines like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
How appropriate, people being told to shut up on a post about people being made to shut up. Dammit dang, downvote abuse is a real issue. The very fact that people keep bringing this up should clue you in. Once or twice, okay maybe it's the complainer's perception that's wrong, but again and again, for over a year? Then your damn system has a problem. The least you could do to address it is not let downvotes instantly…
Maybe maybe not, but clearly not in this case. It was troll-ish and looking for a fight. Just like your own:
>How appropriate, people being told to shut up on a post about people being made to shut up.
Would you talk to your mother that way? It isn't respectful and it doesn't add anything to the discussion.
>Why is that so painfully hard for you to do? Did you lose the source code or can't find another Malbolge maintainer to take over?
I rest my case.
In the last Hacker News thread, people were so sure that the government jailed him for criticizing the party. Even though there was no evidence of such, people just assumed it MUST be true because the CCP MUST be evil. And before Jack Ma "disappeared", people were worried about Jack Ma and Ant Group being a national security threat, because of his ties with CCP. Because "CCP evil". No matter the facts, people just co…
> things in China are far more complex and nuanced
sure, but these comments are anti-CCP, not anti-China/Chinese; it's a problem if the two are considered synonymous.
> Maybe there's an alternative point of view than "CCP is evil" that is at least just as valid.
Is there an alternative point of view than "the Nazi regime is evil"? You can undermine any reasonable assumption by invoking Descartes daemon, at that point you're just gaslighting people.
> See Cyrus Janssen's blog
from that post:
In China it’s always important to remain (低调 Dīdiào) or “low-key”.
There is not much he can say after being chastened for thinking he is above the greater good. A little humbling is good for an inflated ego.
The question is; what happens when people ignore the "greater good", and refuses to remain low-key?
And who is chastising Jack Ma?
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A book from 1922? That's back during the Republican era, pre-civil war. I think any resource from before 30 years ago is totally irrelevant in today's setting, except maybe to explain how Chinese modern history developed.
It's shocking how accurate his predictions were, and I think it's really important to understand that these weren't lucky guesses. They were the product of a deep and insightful analysis of Chinese culture and society that is still very much relevant today. The personalities have changed, but in many ways China is still China.