All of these HN comments are defending shouting "Fire!" falsely in a theater under the guise of it being a slippery slope before all speech is lost. I have lost a lot of respect for these slippery slope arguments because they are easy to make and ignore the obvious problem which is that some speech shouldn't be tolerated... Especially intolerant or harmful speech.
Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump
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#232Interesting how they sing a different tune once the other party finally gets certification of the election results, time to get 'cozy' with the new people in power and set up those dinners [1] and ad deals with them. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...
Yep. Fuck zuck, finally deleted my Facebook account because of this.
You deleted your Facebook account, because they banned someone for inciting treason and sedition?
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#233Eleventh-hour posturing - Zuckerberg knows which way the wind has turned.
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#234 Therefore, we are extending the block we have placed on his Facebook and Instagram accounts indefinitely and for at least the next two weeks until the peaceful transition of power is complete.
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#235Regardless of being the right thing to do or not, it is very interesting to see a software platform banning a president of a country. Interesting times.
You must have something to say besides it’s interesting?
I often find myself responding with "interesting" when I haven't yet formulated an opinion - to me it's an indication that I'll have to get back to you on how I feel about it. I haven't found another synonym to use as a response, and I often catch myself constantly saying "interesting" over and over. It's interesting.
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#236I don't support how Trump has handled the election. Before, after, during. We would all be better off if he would stop this and uphold our tradition of peaceful transition of power.
What I'm not seeing the media talk about is what difference does or does not exist between a group of people breaking into the capital (a political event at a political location) vs. cordoning off parts of a city, burning businesses, etc. If you don't recall, in June of last year, parts of Washington were quite literally on fire.
Without that discussion it greatly appears that they just support one group and their ideas but not the other, all the while calling others divisive.
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#237When people say anonymity online is bad and that having people use their real names would make people more polite, I point them to facebook comments.
Google tried using real names on youtube briefly and it had no affect in reducing white supremacy or conspiracy theories in its comments.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you're more or less encouraging a coup, the "fire in a crowded theater" analogy couldn't be more applicable.
FYI: Fire in a crowded theater is NOT the analogy you want to use if you defend free speech(not that this action violates the 1A) https://www.popehat.com/2012/09/19/three-generations-of-a-ha...
I didn't understand that post when it was written and I don't understand your comment now.
How is this different from saying "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character" is not a quote you should use if you are opposed to the government granting special benefits and privileges to blacks in preference to whites, because that was an idea that Martin Luther King supported?
Can an idea have any value independently of the cause someone once used it to support?
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#239Interesting how they sing a different tune once the other party finally gets certification of the election results, time to get 'cozy' with the new people in power and set up those dinners [1] and ad deals with them. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...
This just seems like both parties are working together including Trump to have these events be a pressure release valve for all the shit of 2020. A target where people can vent their frustrations and anger, and once Trump leaves get that dopamine hit and simmer down -- until next cycle. If none of the events of the past month happened people would have to face the reality of their situation. Now they can just scream…
I don't buy in to the conspiracy theories because all of the big players comes out looking terrible. DNC now has to spend most of the first half of Bidens term trying to rebuild the nations confidence. RNC looks like crap because Trump. The only beneficiaries from a political perspective look to be state governments
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
See for yourself: https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/trump-releases-statement-telli... Someone described this video as taking a log off the fire while simultaneously pouring gasoline which I think is a fair characterization.
So basically you are saying: - Asking for peace isn’t enough - And. He really needs to stop believing his claim of fraud? Wild. Am I crazy or is everyone else right now?
The mob started at a “Stop the Steal” Trump Rally where DJT personally used mob boss speak about it “not being so nice for some senators” and quickly following up with calls to not be weak.
“Go to the capital and be strong so the legislators can’t steal our victory.”
*several hours later, after they’ve broken into the capital and terrorized the legislation
“Go home, but they did steal the election and you’re special and we love you.”
That was him approving of their actions. That was him saying what they did was what he wanted and he would happily see them go further. Not picking up on this pattern in the past 4 years doesn’t make you crazy, but it does mean you aren’t paying close attention.