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Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by dontTango »

chinhodado wrote: post #11

I love Firefox, I use it everyday, I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config. At the same time, I can't shake off the dreadful feeling that it will eventually die one day. The market share keeps falling year by year. What is the most realistic future for Firefox?

Compete or die. I have 2 computers that can't run Firefox at a usable speed. No way to figure out the problem.

My fresh computer works fine.

And I'm currently using the Android app. It's buggy, but it could be Facebook or the Google keyboard. Chrome has different problems. Duck duck go has been my newest install. I still need to transfer over.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by fwn »

lxgr wrote: post #167
ducktective wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same but I've disabled its updates since like a year.

Is that a good idea though, considering that your browser is arguably the largest attack surface there is on your computer?

It's not a good idea. That's also why it's very important to provide updates that do not disable functionality important for the user. That way you don't force users to choose between security or functionality.

Mozilla still does not allow non-store extensions on their new firefox. Until they're back I have to keep old Firefox around. ...which sucks.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by as_ »

xnx wrote: post #147
ducktective wrote: post #99

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Same but I've disabled its updates since like a year.

Me too. Waiting for the current branch to properly support extensions, or for an Android Chrome fork to support the extensions I use.

Kiwi Browser let install Chrome extensions :)

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by spinningslate »

endemic wrote: post #227
akmittal wrote: post #166

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>Microsoft basing Edge on Chromium was a really stupid move on their part for this reason, It is not true at all. After a long time Microsoft's browser share in increasing. They probably are quite happy about it,.

Plus Google can't intentionally cripple Edge without shooting themselves in the foot.

this. Firefox isn't a competitive threat for Microsoft; Chrome was. So Microsoft did what they're extremely good at: commoditising competitive threat where they were losing on market share. They've done it with Linux too. Whether you love them or hate them, you have to recognise the effectiveness of both strategy and execution.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by pt_PT_guy »

Macha wrote: post #125
gnusty_gnurc wrote: post #57

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> I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config Vivaldi is a configuration juggernaut in my experience. Reminds me of the glory days of Opera. It has a wonderful vertical tab bar too - built-in .

It is unfortunately closed source, however.

any suggestion for a good opensource browser? Firefox is my main browser (and the only one recommended by privacytools.io), but having a chromium-based one is good to have too.

- Brave: it has been pushing opt-in-by-default ads and crypto widgets

- Vivaldi: 5% closed source

- Edge: not open source (yet?)

- Chromium: lacks too many features

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by darau1 »

jefftk wrote: post #9

And for developers: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Rel... The biggest change from my perspective is "Firefox now ensures that localhost URLs — such as http://localhost/ and http://dev.localhost/ — refer to the local host's loopback interface (e.g. http://127.0.0.1 ). As a result, resources loaded from localhost are now assumed to have been delivered securely (see Secure contexts), and also w…

thank you jesus

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by amelius »

jefftk wrote: post #9

And for developers: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Rel... The biggest change from my perspective is "Firefox now ensures that localhost URLs — such as http://localhost/ and http://dev.localhost/ — refer to the local host's loopback interface (e.g. http://127.0.0.1 ). As a result, resources loaded from localhost are now assumed to have been delivered securely (see Secure contexts), and also w…

But can other websites visit localhost, and thus probe your development machine while you browse those websites?

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by paleogizmo »

bzb6 wrote: post #71
xyzal wrote: post #34

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I can't understand why they still didn't put a "Support Mozilla" prompt anywhere.

When you donate to Mozilla the money doesn’t go to the betterment of the Firefox browser.

I was of the impression that Mozilla had shed their side projects in the face of dwindling money from Google. Is that still not the case?

I am willing to donate to Mozilla in spite of their mismanagement given that we are creeping ever closer to another browser monopoly. Ignoring bad financial decisions, Firefox is a good product and I've been using it exclusively on PC since Quantum came out. I feel that people here hold Mozilla to some impossibly high standards and turn it into outrage porn. I mean, I don't see top-ranked comments on HN about threatening to stop using Chrome because of whatever sleazy thing Google did last.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by illegalvirus »

The big one here for web-devs has to be "Show Tabbing Order" feature in the Accessibility menu in the dev tools. Being able to see this should save a lot of trial and error.
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