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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I'm completely against Google usage of personal informations and hate annoying and bad ux on official YouTube app but, to be honest, ads support creators with revenue so when you "avoid ads", you are harming creators too, not only Google. I think that if you don't like YT app and advertising, you simply shouldn't use YouTube.

Give them a few bucks via Patreon or whatever then. That's more benefit than they'll receive from your eyes being assaulted with hours of ads.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

#233

I'm completely against Google usage of personal informations and hate annoying and bad ux on official YouTube app but, to be honest, ads support creators with revenue so when you "avoid ads", you are harming creators too, not only Google. I think that if you don't like YT app and advertising, you simply shouldn't use YouTube.

Everyone I follow on YouTube that is trying to make any money there uses some other form of revenue. Mostly embedded ads, affiliate links, sponsorships, and merchandise. These work regardless of whether you watch Google's ads.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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not to mention the "play in background" functionality that google anti-featured away.

You need Youtube Premium for that. I have a legacy Google Play Music subscription and sometimes I feel like my experience vastly different than people without Youtube Premium. I use Youtube enough I'm ok paying to not see ads and play videos with my phone screen off.

Oh they have been very clear about needing youtube premium for that. I do get it to an extent. If people want to use it as a jukebox. I have spotify and mp3s for that. I want to play videos in the background that don't have actual visual content ("people talking to the camera" style) and google doesn't want that. Luckily I can use alternatives for nearly all content like this, first and foremost actual RSS podcasts.

As for the experience being very different on premium: I recently had to use YT on a browser without uBlock/uMatrix and I believe I got a taste of that difference. Scary stuff, not sure how people cope with all the shit being thrown at them.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Fun story: adblock does NOT block youtube ads. It would be almost impossible to - they are served from the same inscrutable urls as real videos. Instead youtube detects adblock and does not show ads to adblock users on purpose. So next time you see a YouTube employee, thank them for that

Actually, no. > they are served from the same inscrutable urls as real video This may be right, so host based adblocking may not work. However, uBlock origin etc definitely block youtube ads and it works as a browser extension so they have access to the DOM and probably do something there.

I've noticed in the last few weeks that YouTube has some sort of fallback when an ad gets blocked. You get a white overlay with with impossible-to-read lightgrey text on it, with a blue button in the middle with a call to action on it (eg Signup Now, Click to Learn More). There is still a Skip Ad button and a widget to indicate when the ad will go away on its own.

I have two YouTube accounts, and at first it only happened on one. Now it is happening to both. Maybe it is something they are currently just testing.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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YouTube Premium will not show any Ads. You just need to pay for the service you're receiving. Since when is that an unreasonable ask?

YouTube makes a profit, after all operational costs are accounted for, they aren't paying creators what they're owed. Why would I support a company who regularly short changes the creators who work hard to produce quality content?

Content creators get 55% of the ad revenue so that is simply not true.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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noob question here - i dont know what F-droid is. Is this meant to be installed from the Play Store or do i have to "jailbreak" my android?

F-droid is an alternative App Store, dedicated to open source software.

You have to enable installing apps from "unknown sources" (an option available in the Android menus, no root required), then install the Fdroid application, and from now on you can revert back the "unknown sources" setting, and use Fdroid to search and install FOSS apps, including NewPipe.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Noted. Apologies!

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

#240

YouTube is one of the worst Android apps in regards of usability, accidental clicks, and anoying ads. It would be great if there was a way installing the app without allowing third party sources. Haven't developed on Android since years. Does anyone know if I can build it and upload it via ADB without enabling apps from 3rd party sources.

As a YouTube Premium user it's a lot less annoying, but what's frustrating for me is it not being simple to go back to a video after accidentally exiting it (where in a browser you would just go back to that tab, or press back or whatever). Also the application crashes all the time, especially when switching to play in the background (locking the screen, switching apps, etc.); and as of Android 10 on my device it int…

Oh yeah the back button UX is bad. If you do multiple searches in a row, the back button doesn't exit the search screen, it goes back through your searches. But if you're watching a video and accidentally click on a different video, the back button doesn't take you the the previous video, it goes to the home screen.

This is the opposite of what I want, the search bar has a scroll menu with the most recent searches anyway, I really have no need to traverse my search history.

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