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Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by KenanSulayman »

Apple wants members of their $500 Universal App Quick Start program to send back their Developer Transition Kit (DTK) units after the program automatically expires (!) after one year. [1]

Citing directly from this document:

> You agree to promptly return the Developer Transition Kit to the Apple address designated by Apple no later than thirty (30) days after the end of the Term, or as otherwise earlier requested by Apple (including via email or announcement by Apple on developer.apple.com).

> At the end of the Term, You agree to immediately cease all use of the Developer Transition Kit and the Universal App Quick Start Program.

> Failure to return the Developer Transition Kit may result in the suspension of Your Developer account or termination of Your Developer Agreement.

Admission to the program costs $500. What??? ...

Why did they not mention this anywhere but the terms of service?

[1] https://developer.apple.com/terms/universal-app-quick-start-...

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by saiojd »

SenHeng wrote: post #84

I’m surprised at all the negative takes. I thought it was refreshing, they’re reintroducing colours and icons, cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms, and introducing new, well tested convenience features.

People on this site always comment negatively on literally anything related to UI except if it looks like it was made in the 90s. Absolutely zero sense of perspective or open-mindedness.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by jbverschoor »

untog wrote: post #214
GeekyBear wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Honestly, every time Apple has done anything with the Mac the past couple of years, they've screwed it up. Compared to what OS? The latest Windows 10 update buggers up Storage Spaces and printing, hard on the heels of another Windows 10 Update that deleted the user's files.

Why does it need to be compared to any OS? One of the reasons I switched to Mac was the OS X was far more stable than Windows. I still want a stable OS.

I have biweekly kernel panics on macOS... somewhere in the io sub system. Luckily vscode etc store their state

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by the-pigeon »

impalallama wrote: post #146
SenHeng wrote: post #84

I’m surprised at all the negative takes. I thought it was refreshing, they’re reintroducing colours and icons, cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms, and introducing new, well tested convenience features.

Never underestimate the Internet's ability to see the worse in any Apple announcement. Apple announces something you don't want? They are ignoring the vital issues and focusing only on dumb superficial things which just proves they are going down hill. Apple announces something you do want? Should have happened years ago, and the fact that they've only gotten to it now just proves they are going down hill.

I think you misunderstand.

Changes for changes sake are negative for users. The last thing you want to do is change something that was working for users without giving them anything for it.

However a lot of actively developed software today changes because they want it to be "fresh and exciting". Basically because of desire to use changes to market it. But changing anything for that reason hurts usability.

Any change means the user will have to adapt to that change. You want to minimize the user having to adapt to anything. When you do make them adapt you need to give them clear value for that adapting.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by davidivadavid »

ravedave5 wrote: post #207
SenHeng wrote: post #84

I’m surprised at all the negative takes. I thought it was refreshing, they’re reintroducing colours and icons, cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms, and introducing new, well tested convenience features.

I don't consider design language across platforms a positive nessisarly. I want my laptop to be a laptop and tablet to be a tablet. They don't need to share UI. That's why windows 8 was such a disaster.

Nope. People on HN seem not to understand that a "consistent design language" is something more complex than "do exactly the same thing on every platform."

The reason Windows 8 was a disaster was because Microsoft suffered from the same misconception.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by wvenable »

untog wrote: post #214
GeekyBear wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Honestly, every time Apple has done anything with the Mac the past couple of years, they've screwed it up. Compared to what OS? The latest Windows 10 update buggers up Storage Spaces and printing, hard on the heels of another Windows 10 Update that deleted the user's files.

Why does it need to be compared to any OS? One of the reasons I switched to Mac was the OS X was far more stable than Windows. I still want a stable OS.

> OS X was far more stable than Windows.

I'm not sure that was ever true but certainly hasn't been true for over a decade. Neither OS is fully stable (how ever you might define that) and neither OS is a terrible unstable mess either.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by nutjob2 »

GeekyBear wrote: post #203
cytzol wrote: post #52

I was really hoping they'd take some time to address Catalina's glaring issues — its slowness, bugginess, just general sloppiness — and instead they did the opposite. Honestly, every time Apple has done anything with the Mac the past couple of years, they've screwed it up. The infamous keyboards that they doubled-down and then tripled-down upon (I have personally had five keyboard replacements). The way Catalina send…

>Honestly, every time Apple has done anything with the Mac the past couple of years, they've screwed it up. Compared to what OS? The latest Windows 10 update buggers up Storage Spaces and printing, hard on the heels of another Windows 10 Update that deleted the user's files.

Compared to the previous (-ly used) macOS release, obviously. That's the only OS that matters in this context.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by ptr »

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #33
css wrote: post #17

Scrolling this site with a mouse is comically bad, this is clearly designed to be used only with a trackpad. I cant read most of the content without very carefully scrolling unnaturally. You also have to pause for the animations to play, but if you scroll one pixel too far they don't play, so its a guessing game of whether you're in the right place or whether you missed some content.

Basically all of macOS is comically bad with a mouse and clearly designed for trackpads. You need to install a third-party tool to even disable mouse acceleration.

I thought the third party tool was a kext and was made non-functional. Is there a new way?

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by jbverschoor »

KenanSulayman wrote: post #231

Apple wants members of their $500 Universal App Quick Start program to send back their Developer Transition Kit (DTK) units after the program automatically expires (!) after one year. [1] Citing directly from this document: > You agree to promptly return the Developer Transition Kit to the Apple address designated by Apple no later than thirty (30) days after the end of the Term, or as otherwise earlier requested by…

Well, I’m still enjoying my $1 appletv
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