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USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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>prevailing wage This is a joke as it is currently implemented.

Is there something wrong with OES or SCA? How exactly?

Its gamed in many ways. Here is one example, bodyshops are based out of some small town in michigan and they use local prevailing wage for h1b application but employee is sent out to work at newyork .

Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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Is there something wrong with OES or SCA? How exactly?

Its gamed in many ways. Here is one example, bodyshops are based out of some small town in michigan and they use local prevailing wage for h1b application but employee is sent out to work at newyork .

The H1B-violator consultancies have been cracked down on by USCIS in the past year. This has become much less of an issue.

Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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Your proposal is a feel-good hurrah, but oversimplifies a few complex issues. No protections = Exploitation of workers. Instant green card = Increased competition for Housing/public services. So unless you think that lowly-paid immigrants with limited access to social services is the best path forward, I'd advocate for some protections. I agree with no limits. If a company can provide for the workers, then go for it.…

> No protections = Exploitation of workers. I said no protectionism (in the form of visa caps), not no protections. > Instant green card = Increased competition for Housing/public services. Sounds like a great opportunity for entrepreneurs to provide those services and make lots of money. I wonder why the otherwise enterprising Hacker News crowd is blind to the incredible market opportunities open borders would provi…

You said 'No $100k minimum wage' which IS a protection in favor of the immigrants.

Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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Why shouldn't they do that? If I have a bunch of people to keep them on track then hiring the cheapest workers who can do the job sounds like good business.

Because we would like our country to prefer our own citizens for such jobs, when possible.

"Because we would like our race to prefer its own members for such jobs, when possible."

Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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Even established companies not in the obviously-sleazy Tata/Infosys abuse buckets play games here. "Write up job description consisting of specialty skills your H1B candidate already has, but that you don't need in your company in that role, then use them as a generic webdev" type stuff.

Yeah because wanting someone who has worked in your company for 3-5 years and has an in depth knowledge of the job and the internal Dynamics of the company is obviously the exact equivalent of someone who has experience in the 3-4 specific headline technologies whether they are good or not at that is a terrible idea. The alternative of an H1B is not an American. It's off shoring the entire project to a team that does…

>The alternative of an H1B is not an American. It's off shoring the entire project to a team that doesn't live in the US in the first place.

Nope, the alternative is off shoring the project to places like Ohio and Montana.

Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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Even established companies not in the obviously-sleazy Tata/Infosys abuse buckets play games here. "Write up job description consisting of specialty skills your H1B candidate already has, but that you don't need in your company in that role, then use them as a generic webdev" type stuff.

Yeah because wanting someone who has worked in your company for 3-5 years and has an in depth knowledge of the job and the internal Dynamics of the company is obviously the exact equivalent of someone who has experience in the 3-4 specific headline technologies whether they are good or not at that is a terrible idea. The alternative of an H1B is not an American. It's off shoring the entire project to a team that does…

This is correct. I've been involved in these sorts of postings, and it was absolutely gamed. But for good reason: we already had the perfect person in the role and wanted to keep him.

Imagine if there was a law that required companies to post job openings for every position in the company, regardless of whether or not that position was already filled. As you can imagine, they would likely make the job requirements exceedingly specific for the roles filled by people they really like.

You don't even need to imagine, just go look at government or non-profit job postings. It's often the case that they similar ridiculous policies for promotions, where they already have a person they want to promote, but they need to open it up to public applicants first.

Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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Not too long ago, "the less globalization, the better" was the liberal point of view.

By definition, not - maybe you could pick a better term?

It was definitely the progressive point of view. Trade unions in the US have historically been nativist.

Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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This is not only happening to H1-B Visas. I am on L1 Visa and got an RFE as well. Lawyers said that they have seen a large increase in such requests. I am in charge of production systems which, if they go down for any significant amount of time, can represent hundreds of millions of dollars in lost revenue. This is a very niche system(networking-related), not your usual run of the mill web app. My salary is in the 6…

I'm rooting for you (and more usefully, donating time and money to political candidates who can help you). My research group currently has a scientist who took a year to recruit stuck in immigration. I wouldn't be surprised if he gives up. It makes me furious what the alliance of nativism and greed is doing to this country.

Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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Yup cant stand journalism today. Straight up mouthpiece for the rich. Why did they not ask the company what the wage for that position is. How many people in Chicago did they interview. Did they interview anyone over 50 who has that exact experience? Did they approach anyone currently working in similar jobs and offer them raises and other benefits to entice them over? Truth is the Company did none of those things so…

You're talking as if there are only two parties here: owners (rich) and tech workers (not rich). But tech workers are well above the average US income. The unspoken group in your argument is the consumer, who on average is poorer than the tech workers. Lowering tech wages with H1B visas helps the consumers as well as the owners, because it makes the marginal tech product less likely to fail. You might still think tha…

You seem to be assuming that lowering tech wages will lead to more participation by labor overall, but I think that it will instead just lead to companies lining their coffers with the savings realized by replacing an equal number of positions with lower-paid H1-B workers.

Re: USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications

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Because we would like our country to prefer our own citizens for such jobs, when possible.

"Because we would like our race to prefer its own members for such jobs, when possible."

How is that at all equivalent to what I said?
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