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Post by bentcorner »

na85 wrote: post #217
bentcorner wrote: post #197

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> SAAS is inferior in: > * games Isn't steam like this? The bits get downloaded to your machine, but if Steam goes offline your SOL. What steam could use is better download management. If they moved over to an on-demand streaming architecture it'd be really huge. The days you'd need to preload software could be over. This sort of thing has been solved many times before, so it's technically possible. In fact, as I typ…

Well, Steam is inferior for that exact reason. It does have an "offline mode" where it will pre-decrypt the games or whatever it does behind the scenes. Why would on-demand streaming be a good thing? Now you have to worry about ISPs and bandwidth, it doesn't solve the problem.

I think it would be a good thing because if I have a hankering to play a game I don't have installed, I wouldn't need to wait for an hour for it to download.

I need to worry about ISPs and bandwidth before, it's just that now I can be more frivolous with what I have installed on my machine (no sense leaving something installed "just in case").

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Post by ubercow13 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #146
rangibaby wrote: post #102

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You don't need a crack for CC, just to block Adobe's activation servers in your hosts after installing. (AFAIK)

Not anymore, this was valid up to CS5. CS5.5 and later need the amtlib.dll patch on Windows, dunno what's the state of affairs on Macintosh.

I'm pretty sure they don't..I had CS6 without using any patched files iirc

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Post by copperheart »

Fuxy wrote: post #123
nnq wrote: post #37

My recipe for dealing with "cranky" proprietary software like this: Step 1. Buy CC subscription and install what you need. Step 2. Look for a good patch/crack that makes everything work ofline, and that still allows you to update. Step 3. Make peace with the risk of having installed some possible malware on your machine with the patch/crack (ie. do the sensible thing of doing you shopping and ebanking on the other de…

And this is why "cloud" software will always be worse then regular software. What happens when these "cloud" companies go out of business? You're pretty much SOL if you can't find a replacement quick. Don't ever rely on "cloud" software for critical infrastructure unless you own that cloud. Everybody get CS6 and delay upgrading as long as you can.

Our shop is currently holding at CS6, and we have no desire to 'upgrade' to CC. Unfortunately, customers have been sending in artwork and source files created in CC, so we will eventually be forced into Adobe's subscription plan unless some other full-featured software suite of equal or greater capability comes along.

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Post by tomelders »

abalone wrote: post #179
nnq wrote: post #37

My recipe for dealing with "cranky" proprietary software like this: Step 1. Buy CC subscription and install what you need. Step 2. Look for a good patch/crack that makes everything work ofline, and that still allows you to update. Step 3. Make peace with the risk of having installed some possible malware on your machine with the patch/crack (ie. do the sensible thing of doing you shopping and ebanking on the other de…

My "recipe" is this: Uninstall and switch to Sketch. http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ I have been so, so happy. Not 100% apples-to-apples of course but it's been great for my UI design needs, way better than Photoshop/Fireworks. For bitmap editing I supplement with Pixelmator (only $15!). I used to say Photoshop couldn't be beat because of insanely hardcore features like content-aware fill, but then this is happenin…

For web UI work, I have to agree, Sketch is superior in all the ways that matter. Your output in sketch will look like your out out in the browser, and the way things are designed in sketch lines up nicely with the way things will be built in code.

But it's not Photoshop, and I've seen first hand how designers decry Sketch as inferior, not on its merits, but on the bad habits and false friends that Photoshop offers.

I've personally been on a path to rid myself of Adohe Products for years, and that means trying new things, learning new software and celebrating things that are different to what Adobe offers.

Also, Pixelmator does a great job of picking up the slack. I'm comfortable with the idea that i need two apps to design UIs. Sketch feels so much more focused because it's not dealing with image manipulation, and Pixelmator is so much more performant than Photoshop that I'm constantly reminded just how powerful my Mac actually.

For anyone up there looking for replacements to Adobe software, you won't find anything worthwhile. But if you're willing to consider alternatives, there's a lot of choice.

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Post by maccard »

rtpg wrote: post #33
x0x0 wrote: post #30

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time machine in the event of a theft, I can walk into an apple store, purchase an in stock macbook, let time machine recover for ~30 minutes, and get back to work edit: just to be clear, I bet the vast majority of users will, even after this 24+ hours, experience less net downtime. Nonetheless, when I need to hit a deadline, with installed software, I have a viable plan b. The viable plan b here appears to be to grov…

good point, maybe the minimum for backups and the like have gotten so good that Toy Story-style "We have lost everything" situations don't really happen as much anymore. Design tools are definitely a different category than some other enterprise-y software though. At least Evernote still allows me to use it if the servers were down.

I'm sitting in work right now (PC repair shop) and they really really do. We get students coming in the week before thesis deadlines with dead hard drives and no backups of a years work. We get about 2 or 3 people daily coming in asking about replacing a dead hard drive and recovering data.

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Post by golergka »

abalone wrote: post #179
nnq wrote: post #37

My recipe for dealing with "cranky" proprietary software like this: Step 1. Buy CC subscription and install what you need. Step 2. Look for a good patch/crack that makes everything work ofline, and that still allows you to update. Step 3. Make peace with the risk of having installed some possible malware on your machine with the patch/crack (ie. do the sensible thing of doing you shopping and ebanking on the other de…

My "recipe" is this: Uninstall and switch to Sketch. http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ I have been so, so happy. Not 100% apples-to-apples of course but it's been great for my UI design needs, way better than Photoshop/Fireworks. For bitmap editing I supplement with Pixelmator (only $15!). I used to say Photoshop couldn't be beat because of insanely hardcore features like content-aware fill, but then this is happenin…

I saw your comment yesterday, I already started the trials and I just wanted to say thanks. I'm not a designer myself, so I just assumed that since Adobe was the industry standard, anything else must be much worse; it seems it's not the case anymore.

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Post by DrStalker »

lifeformed wrote: post #226

Wait, do you really have to have a constant internet connection to run Photoshop now?

Australian here. Using the subscription version of Creative Suite avoids the $4000 fuck-you-Australia markup they add onto the price of the full version.

So yeah, we don't get to edit photos when the internet is down or Adobe's servers fail.

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Post by err4nt »

copperheart wrote: post #223
Fuxy wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is why "cloud" software will always be worse then regular software. What happens when these "cloud" companies go out of business? You're pretty much SOL if you can't find a replacement quick. Don't ever rely on "cloud" software for critical infrastructure unless you own that cloud. Everybody get CS6 and delay upgrading as long as you can.

Our shop is currently holding at CS6, and we have no desire to 'upgrade' to CC. Unfortunately, customers have been sending in artwork and source files created in CC, so we will eventually be forced into Adobe's subscription plan unless some other full-featured software suite of equal or greater capability comes along.

Does Creative Cloud not allow you to save in a format compatible with previous versions of Photoshop?

I ask for open formats from people. Send me something I can work with in my choice of software! Save multiple versions and deliver those just for redundancy. There's no excuse if you're using pro-level software to ever say "well I guess you'll have to buy it to do something with this"

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Post by Keyframe »

wishinghand wrote: post #208
abalone wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My "recipe" is this: Uninstall and switch to Sketch. http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ I have been so, so happy. Not 100% apples-to-apples of course but it's been great for my UI design needs, way better than Photoshop/Fireworks. For bitmap editing I supplement with Pixelmator (only $15!). I used to say Photoshop couldn't be beat because of insanely hardcore features like content-aware fill, but then this is happenin…

I do wish there were better alternatives for each and every app in the CC. The only one that's competently matched is Premiere. Pixelmator is good, but Mac/OSX only. It also doesn't have adjustment layers, meaning that if I want a layer to be black and white, I'd have to open it up separately, desaturate, then import it back in as a new layer, delete the old one and rearrange. They finally have a 16bit color, and app…

Wait, what... where is Premiere matched? I am tied to Windows because of CC. Namely, Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, After Effects and AME - all Adobe. If Adobe only ported their stuff to linux then I could switch completely. Autodesk already has me covered with Maya and other tools, The Foundry as well, FadeIn is a great alternative to Final Draft (although I bought both)... I only need Adobe CC alternatives, especially Premiere - or AVID to port MediaComposer.
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