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The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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post #214

Goodbye, Digital Ocean!

You can downvote as much as you want, but having faster nodes from a long-established company, which doesn't keep your old images available to new customers to peek in, beats DO! I've been with DO since they launched and I can't say they are one of the more reliable services I've dealt with!

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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I still prefer OVH.com http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml for $7 you get: 2 cores 2GB RAM for 10$ you get: 3 cores 4GB RAM They don't have SSD, but SSD doesn't do everything, I prefer more ram. EDIT: If some of you don't know OVH, it's because its new in America, but its not some cheap company, it's a European company that is very successful there. And just recently created a datacenter in North America. (I us…

Just be aware that OVH is using OpenVZ whereas both Linode and DO are using KVM. That's a big difference if it matters to you

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cpu counts dont mean much in terms of performance. but from a strict performance standpoint, their E5 2680's are amongst the tops in the industry ( http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html ). i'm pretty sure DO's is somewhere around 1/10th the performance of Linode's in terms of CPU power. you are getting a really good deal here w/ Linode, I dont think any cloud providers are at this level right now.

Amazon also uses E5-2680 v2 on their C3 instance types, and E5-2670 v2 on R3 types.

yes, but not at $20/month ... on ec2 you'd pay atleast $100/month for same thing.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not with the tiny amounts of memory offered at that price. 2GB is very easy to burn through in short order. Anything less than 8 feels really claustrophobic. I've always needed memory more than disk. Really wish I could pay some of these providers just for a one off increase of a few extra gigs of memory without tiering up which includes an entirely higher level of storage that I will not ever use.

Some types of sites need disk more than RAM, and that market is really weird right now too. I run a service that could get away with only 8GB of RAM, but definitely needs at least 2TB of space, plus plenty of room to grow.

When numbers start getting up into that territory, I tend to look at the discount dedicated servers.

WholeSaleInternet for example, currently has a Quad-Core Xeon E3 1230 for sale at $49/month with 5 IP Addresses. 1GBPS connection with 10TB bandwidth with 8GB of RAM / 250GB of Hard Drive.

If that 2TB Hard Drive is really needed, you can compromise on the CPU and go for a consumer-grade AMD Fx-4100 (Quad-Core AMD) from Datashack for $55 / month, with 5 IP Addresses, 8GB RAM / 2TB of Hard Drive space, 10TB of Bandwidth on 1Gbps

Most web applications seem to be Disk heavy or RAM Heavy... I rarely see CPU-heavy applications. So the AMD Fx-4100 can be good enough (its far far better than an Atom, although it isn't as good as a modern E3 Xeon).

I've never had the need for it, but since Dedicated Servers often come with 5 or 13 IP Addresses, and they can be as cheap as ~$60/month realistically... I think its better to just install Proxmox on a single dedicated box and spin up your own private VMs if you are honestly going to need multiple VMs.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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VPSBench result: Before ------- CPU model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5520 @ 2.27GHz Number of cores: 8 CPU frequency: 2266.788 MHz Total amount of RAM: 988 MB Total amount of swap: 255 MB System uptime: 8 days, 12:03, I/O speed: 69.9 MB/s Bzip 25MB: 8.96s Download 100MB file: 47.2MB/s After ------ CPU model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz Number of cores: 2 CPU frequency: 2800.086 MHz Total amount of RAM: 1993…

Here is DigitalOcean's $5/month plan:

  CPU model:  QEMU Virtual CPU version 1.0
  Number of cores: 1
  CPU frequency:  2299.998 MHz
  Total amount of RAM: 491 MB
  Total amount of swap: 0 MB
  System uptime:   276 days, 5:04,       
  I/O speed:  253 MB/s
  Bzip 25MB: 7.83s
  Download 100MB file: 56.0MB/s
Here is Vultr's $5/month plan:

  CPU model:  Vultr Virtual CPU 2
  Number of cores: 1
  CPU frequency:  3399.994 MHz
  Total amount of RAM: 490 MB
  Total amount of swap: 509 MB
  System uptime:   28 days, 3:15,       
  I/O speed:  485 MB/s
  Bzip 25MB: 3.17s
  Download 100MB file: 58.2MB/s

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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A nice reward for those of us who have been using Linode from before they even had x86_64 images.

Yes. I'm actually looking at upgrading my server to a 64bit kernel just so i can take advantage of this. I've been on them so long i'm still a 32bit userland.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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About a week ago, I wrote a comment in another Linode-related thread asking how the new usage patterns that hourly billing encourages might affect CPU contention. At the time, I received 11 upvotes but no replies. Apparently, quite a few people were interested in my question but had no useful conjectures to share.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7564764

Now it's obvious what Linode's answer to that question is: Lower "burstable" CPU for lower plans.

The $20 plan used to be able to burst to 8 cores for short periods, but now it only has access to 2 vcores. The "guaranteed" processing power is probably higher with the newer CPUs, but at the expense of short-term burst performance.

Another minor detail that I find interesting is that the transfer cap for the $20 plan has been increased to 3TB, whereas the $40 plan still gets 4TB. Apart from the transfer cap plateau-ing at the extreme high end, this is the first time that Linode has broken its 11-year-old policy of "pay X times as much money, get X times as much RAM/disk/transfer".

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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I still prefer OVH.com http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml for $7 you get: 2 cores 2GB RAM for 10$ you get: 3 cores 4GB RAM They don't have SSD, but SSD doesn't do everything, I prefer more ram. EDIT: If some of you don't know OVH, it's because its new in America, but its not some cheap company, it's a European company that is very successful there. And just recently created a datacenter in North America. (I us…

Can you run https://github.com/mgutz/vpsbench and see how the performance is to compare?

Neat script! Here are some low-end results for comparison.

BuyVM 128MB ram, 15GB disk, 15USD/year

  CPU model:  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5520 @ 2.27GHz
  Number of cores: 1
  CPU frequency:  2266.746 MHz
  Total amount of RAM: 128 MB
  Total amount of swap: 128 MB
  System uptime:   39 days, 22:35,
  I/O speed:  89.9 MB/s
  Bzip 25MB: 12.89s
  Download 100MB file: 50.0MB/s
QuickPacket: 128MB ram, 20GB disk, 15USD/year

  CPU model:  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3470 @ 2.93GHz
  Number of cores: 1
  CPU frequency:  2933.228 MHz
  Total amount of RAM: 128 MB
  Total amount of swap: 128 MB
  System uptime:   48 days, 6:07,
  I/O speed:  129 MB/s
  Bzip 25MB: 6.40s
  Download 100MB file: 1.14MB/s
A good aggregator for low-end deals is lowendstock.com .

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I don't see any indication that DO treats servers as disposable or fungible whereas Linode doesn't. I'm not sure "disposable" is a good word to describe DO's approach. We do know that they cram a lot more people per host machine, though. That may be where the "treat VMs like cattle" statement was getting at. You need only fire up a few instances of comparable type, get some CPU load, and watch some basic metric…

I suppose they do it because load on a typical instance is low. Probably $5 instances are mostly hosting services like low-volume blogs, personal home pages, ssh/vpn tunnels, etc. OTOH the lowest ($20) tier on Linode is probably used by more serious projects that, on average, exert considerable load.

> OTOH the lowest ($20) tier on Linode is probably used by more serious projects that, on average, exert considerable load.

I'm not sure about that. For me, I pay the extra few bucks on Linode for the customer service, stability, and the consistent performance. I'm not running my VMs ragged, I'm just willing to pay a little more for a higher quality service.

Anecdotally, it's a quality thing for me. Digital Ocean = Economy car, Linode = A nice Hyundai sedan or a higher end Accord.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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post #208

> Linodes are now SSD. This is not a hybrid solution – it’s fully native SSD servers using battery-backed hardware RAID. No spinning rust! And, no consumer SSDs either – we’re using only reliable, insanely fast, datacenter-grade SSDs that won’t slow down over time. These suckers are not cheap. http://techreport.com/review/26058/the-ssd-endurance-experim... Not to slam what Linode is doing here, and I'm sure there are…

What has changed? (Not advocacy; I'm curious.)
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