Goodbye, Digital Ocean!
The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
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Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#222I still prefer OVH.com http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml for $7 you get: 2 cores 2GB RAM for 10$ you get: 3 cores 4GB RAM They don't have SSD, but SSD doesn't do everything, I prefer more ram. EDIT: If some of you don't know OVH, it's because its new in America, but its not some cheap company, it's a European company that is very successful there. And just recently created a datacenter in North America. (I us…
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
cpu counts dont mean much in terms of performance. but from a strict performance standpoint, their E5 2680's are amongst the tops in the industry ( http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html ). i'm pretty sure DO's is somewhere around 1/10th the performance of Linode's in terms of CPU power. you are getting a really good deal here w/ Linode, I dont think any cloud providers are at this level right now.
Amazon also uses E5-2680 v2 on their C3 instance types, and E5-2670 v2 on R3 types.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not with the tiny amounts of memory offered at that price. 2GB is very easy to burn through in short order. Anything less than 8 feels really claustrophobic. I've always needed memory more than disk. Really wish I could pay some of these providers just for a one off increase of a few extra gigs of memory without tiering up which includes an entirely higher level of storage that I will not ever use.
Some types of sites need disk more than RAM, and that market is really weird right now too. I run a service that could get away with only 8GB of RAM, but definitely needs at least 2TB of space, plus plenty of room to grow.
WholeSaleInternet for example, currently has a Quad-Core Xeon E3 1230 for sale at $49/month with 5 IP Addresses. 1GBPS connection with 10TB bandwidth with 8GB of RAM / 250GB of Hard Drive.
If that 2TB Hard Drive is really needed, you can compromise on the CPU and go for a consumer-grade AMD Fx-4100 (Quad-Core AMD) from Datashack for $55 / month, with 5 IP Addresses, 8GB RAM / 2TB of Hard Drive space, 10TB of Bandwidth on 1Gbps
Most web applications seem to be Disk heavy or RAM Heavy... I rarely see CPU-heavy applications. So the AMD Fx-4100 can be good enough (its far far better than an Atom, although it isn't as good as a modern E3 Xeon).
I've never had the need for it, but since Dedicated Servers often come with 5 or 13 IP Addresses, and they can be as cheap as ~$60/month realistically... I think its better to just install Proxmox on a single dedicated box and spin up your own private VMs if you are honestly going to need multiple VMs.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#225VPSBench result: Before ------- CPU model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5520 @ 2.27GHz Number of cores: 8 CPU frequency: 2266.788 MHz Total amount of RAM: 988 MB Total amount of swap: 255 MB System uptime: 8 days, 12:03, I/O speed: 69.9 MB/s Bzip 25MB: 8.96s Download 100MB file: 47.2MB/s After ------ CPU model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz Number of cores: 2 CPU frequency: 2800.086 MHz Total amount of RAM: 1993…
CPU model: QEMU Virtual CPU version 1.0
Number of cores: 1
CPU frequency: 2299.998 MHz
Total amount of RAM: 491 MB
Total amount of swap: 0 MB
System uptime: 276 days, 5:04,
I/O speed: 253 MB/s
Bzip 25MB: 7.83s
Download 100MB file: 56.0MB/s
Here is Vultr's $5/month plan: CPU model: Vultr Virtual CPU 2
Number of cores: 1
CPU frequency: 3399.994 MHz
Total amount of RAM: 490 MB
Total amount of swap: 509 MB
System uptime: 28 days, 3:15,
I/O speed: 485 MB/s
Bzip 25MB: 3.17s
Download 100MB file: 58.2MB/sRe: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#226A nice reward for those of us who have been using Linode from before they even had x86_64 images.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#227https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7564764
Now it's obvious what Linode's answer to that question is: Lower "burstable" CPU for lower plans.
The $20 plan used to be able to burst to 8 cores for short periods, but now it only has access to 2 vcores. The "guaranteed" processing power is probably higher with the newer CPUs, but at the expense of short-term burst performance.
Another minor detail that I find interesting is that the transfer cap for the $20 plan has been increased to 3TB, whereas the $40 plan still gets 4TB. Apart from the transfer cap plateau-ing at the extreme high end, this is the first time that Linode has broken its 11-year-old policy of "pay X times as much money, get X times as much RAM/disk/transfer".
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#228I still prefer OVH.com http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml for $7 you get: 2 cores 2GB RAM for 10$ you get: 3 cores 4GB RAM They don't have SSD, but SSD doesn't do everything, I prefer more ram. EDIT: If some of you don't know OVH, it's because its new in America, but its not some cheap company, it's a European company that is very successful there. And just recently created a datacenter in North America. (I us…
Can you run https://github.com/mgutz/vpsbench and see how the performance is to compare?
BuyVM 128MB ram, 15GB disk, 15USD/year
CPU model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5520 @ 2.27GHz
Number of cores: 1
CPU frequency: 2266.746 MHz
Total amount of RAM: 128 MB
Total amount of swap: 128 MB
System uptime: 39 days, 22:35,
I/O speed: 89.9 MB/s
Bzip 25MB: 12.89s
Download 100MB file: 50.0MB/s
QuickPacket: 128MB ram, 20GB disk, 15USD/year CPU model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3470 @ 2.93GHz
Number of cores: 1
CPU frequency: 2933.228 MHz
Total amount of RAM: 128 MB
Total amount of swap: 128 MB
System uptime: 48 days, 6:07,
I/O speed: 129 MB/s
Bzip 25MB: 6.40s
Download 100MB file: 1.14MB/s
A good aggregator for low-end deals is lowendstock.com .Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But I don't see any indication that DO treats servers as disposable or fungible whereas Linode doesn't. I'm not sure "disposable" is a good word to describe DO's approach. We do know that they cram a lot more people per host machine, though. That may be where the "treat VMs like cattle" statement was getting at. You need only fire up a few instances of comparable type, get some CPU load, and watch some basic metric…
I suppose they do it because load on a typical instance is low. Probably $5 instances are mostly hosting services like low-volume blogs, personal home pages, ssh/vpn tunnels, etc. OTOH the lowest ($20) tier on Linode is probably used by more serious projects that, on average, exert considerable load.
I'm not sure about that. For me, I pay the extra few bucks on Linode for the customer service, stability, and the consistent performance. I'm not running my VMs ragged, I'm just willing to pay a little more for a higher quality service.
Anecdotally, it's a quality thing for me. Digital Ocean = Economy car, Linode = A nice Hyundai sedan or a higher end Accord.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#230> Linodes are now SSD. This is not a hybrid solution – it’s fully native SSD servers using battery-backed hardware RAID. No spinning rust! And, no consumer SSDs either – we’re using only reliable, insanely fast, datacenter-grade SSDs that won’t slow down over time. These suckers are not cheap. http://techreport.com/review/26058/the-ssd-endurance-experim... Not to slam what Linode is doing here, and I'm sure there are…