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Re: Put.io

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Post by edraferi »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #145
TallGuyShort wrote: post #82

It seems as though the primary use case being discussed and implied is torrenting of media that is not legal (however ethical you feel it may be) to torrent in many countries. Please remember that when you do so, you weaken the case the rest of us have against the same laws you're ignoring, against DRM, against intrusions into our privacy, and against unfair ISP practices.

So there are two groups of people on this planet: (a) Those who download stuff illegally instead of paying like 0.01% of their disposable income per year for it whilst making about as much money as those who have created the content. (b) Those who download stuff illegally instead of having no access at all or paying completely unaffordable fantasy prices for it whilst making only a fraction of those who have created…

There is actually a really cool opportunity here. A service like this could put an access fee on certain torrents, collect payment via bit coin and pass the fee on to the content creators.

Technically, it's totally feasible. of course, that only works if the content creators are willing to license the content, and that's difficult for even big players like Netflix.

There's a huge international market for video and bottom disappear prices. case in point: every sketchy DVD store in the third world. there's lots of legitimate money to be made if you were able to sell legally to that market. The real question is: how do you manage the Price differentiation? If a movie costs $10 in the USA and $0.50 in poor, region-excluded country X, how do you keep everyone in the US from buying the $0.50 version?

If put.io solves this problem, it'll become a billion dollar company.

Re: Put.io

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Post by edraferi »

ceol wrote: post #181
fridek wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my part of the world (Eastern Europe) 25 mbps no-quota costs about $20/mo (~2% avg income) in the urban areas. Outside of cities the price stays the same but usually only (A)DSL is available, with bandwidth ranging from 512kbps to ~15mbps. Accidentally, an average price of a DVD movie is also around $20. So yes, there are places where fast internet is affordable, yet movies are not. Unless you want to watch only o…

If a $20 DVD isn't affordable, $20/mo internet isn't. (I'm also fairly skeptical that your average DVD movie is $20, as though that's the absolute lowest you'll ever pay.) Movies aren't a God-given right, so it's not like you deserve a set amount of movies per month. Even then, while that situation is certainly more excusable, you're still the minority . That site isn't made for the Eastern European lower class who c…

How about everyone who can't afford a computer but CAN afford to hang out at the local internet cafe all day?

Maybe put.io is really the new youku.com

Re: Put.io

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Post by edraferi »

ceol wrote: post #181
fridek wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my part of the world (Eastern Europe) 25 mbps no-quota costs about $20/mo (~2% avg income) in the urban areas. Outside of cities the price stays the same but usually only (A)DSL is available, with bandwidth ranging from 512kbps to ~15mbps. Accidentally, an average price of a DVD movie is also around $20. So yes, there are places where fast internet is affordable, yet movies are not. Unless you want to watch only o…

If a $20 DVD isn't affordable, $20/mo internet isn't. (I'm also fairly skeptical that your average DVD movie is $20, as though that's the absolute lowest you'll ever pay.) Movies aren't a God-given right, so it's not like you deserve a set amount of movies per month. Even then, while that situation is certainly more excusable, you're still the minority . That site isn't made for the Eastern European lower class who c…

How about everyone who can't afford a computer but CAN afford to hang out at the local internet cafe all day?

Maybe put.io is really the new youku.com

Re: Put.io

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Post by k-mcgrady »

ojii wrote: post #192
k-mcgrady wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "There simply is no Netflix in most parts of the world that gives you reliable access to a huge movie library for peanuts." True but you can still get movies via DVD or VHS is those places. e.g. If I don't have access to Spotify it does't give me a valid excuse to pirate. I can still purchase through iTunes or buy CD's.

I'd not really consider DVD/CDs as the same thing as digital downloads. I'd love to purchase digital movies/music, but there's no way I'll buy a CD/DVD as they're useless to me.

IMO that isn't a valid reason to pirate it's just a crazy sense of entitlement. They've made it available to you in a reasonable way but it's still not good enough for you because it's not exactly what you want.

Re: Put.io

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Post by edraferi »

slashdotaccount wrote: post #191
exDM69 wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The vast majority of people will be using this to watch movies they don't feel like paying for. There's also a huge population of people around the world who get access to movies, TV shows and other media only after a significant delay and use this kind of services to get access to that media on the day it is released. Those living in the US may not realize it but there's no amount of money you can pay to get the h…

Why your torrent service is clumsy? Find one that is better.

Torrents are always going to be more clumsy for media consumption than Netflix, etc. put.io is trying to bridge that gap, but it won't close it completely.

Real, legitimate streaming services are really good. they adjust quality based on available bandwidth. they have clients for every device you own. They provide all kinds of helpful metadata like cover art, actors, content classification, playlist recommendations, watch lists, etc etc etc etc

Torrents are terrible. half the stuff is malware, the quality is all over the map, languages and subtitles are a crap shoot, you use a ton of band width, you have to manage huge files locally, etc etc etc etc

Re: Put.io

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Post by edraferi »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #187
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So there are two groups of people on this planet: (a) Those who download stuff illegally instead of paying like 0.01% of their disposable income per year for it whilst making about as much money as those who have created the content. (b) Those who download stuff illegally instead of having no access at all or paying completely unaffordable fantasy prices for it whilst making only a fraction of those who have created…

>> "There simply is no Netflix in most parts of the world that gives you reliable access to a huge movie library for peanuts." True but you can still get movies via DVD or VHS is those places. e.g. If I don't have access to Spotify it does't give me a valid excuse to pirate. I can still purchase through iTunes or buy CD's.

In many markets, the available DVDs are either pirated or way too expensive for most people.

Re: Put.io

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Post by qwwqww »

seems like whatbox.ca offers a way better service. They got way more storage for less money and they are fast as fuck. Only down thing is no instant completion, but if you got enough seeders on your tracker, than every torrent would be finished in less than 5 minutes

Re: Put.io

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Post by lectrick »

kang wrote: post #158
gfunk911 wrote: post #45

I use and love put.io. Completely hassle free. I'd never go back. The killer feature is instant completion of torrents if someone else has already downloaded them. I can be watching a movie 60 seconds after thinking of it.

movies.io integrates great with put.io. Watch a trailer, click, watch the movie!

how, exactly?

Re: Put.io

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Post by babby »

lucb1e wrote: post #213

Wait, I don't get it. This is basically the same as running a server with a torrent daemon (like Transmission) on it, except you pay them instead of get your own server? Also their arguments are somewhat invalid: > People sharing your internet connection. They hate you! With put.io, you won't disturb them, because you won't be hogging all the bandwidth. It doesn't matter whether I download 18GB from http(s) or from a…

>It doesn't matter whether I download 18GB from http(s) or from a torrent, the data remains the same size

Incorrect. For starters, torrent overhead is much higher than http traffic and so the transfer is actually cheaper for http. More critically is the fact that high connection count, as associated with torrents, results in connection saturation on 90% of consumer routers thus crippling all traffic, especially sensitive stuff like gaming, for everyone involved.

Other than that yeah, but this isn't for people like us. This is actually perfect for people like my father; he comes around every week to grab TV and Movies off me. I could remotely manage his account until he figured it out himself.

The thing that could make this service much better would be a feature to LAN sync content, so that one doesn't need to pull down from the internet when the file is avaliable over the LAN. Kind of like how Dropbox-esque services do it.

Re: Put.io

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Post by renang »

Tehnix wrote: post #127
pfisch wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usenet is like 16+ MB/s What is the point of this?

so, you have like a 128 Mb/s connection or something?..

Fast internet is not uncommon in The Netherlands. UPC[1] have 50, 120 and 200 Mb/s internet connections.

[1]: http://www.upc.nl/internet/abonnementen/

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