If you think about it, when computers appeared, a people built them in the garages, so literally anyone could make a difference. Phones didn't have this stage and went straight to business, big business. So here you have it, couple big brands providing their rules and that's all you have. Even rest of the big players fail to do a significant influence on established brands.
Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
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In the suspension notice I received I had a way to appeal it.
I received a notification in adsense that I was in violation of a policy and clicked the "ok", or "fixed" button when I removed the page. They don't just ban people and walk away unless you plain didn't read the TOS and are breaking big rules like clicking your own ads, doing shady stuff, etc.
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#223I keep wondering why indie app publishing services haven't popped up to handle this. Publish your app to Google's store through them, under their label(s) and they push 70-95% of the sales revenue back to the developer. Sure it's not a great deal for the developer, but it's a way around the country limits.
Perhaps some people have a risk threshold that would accept this, but I'm pretty sure this creates a situation in which you are going to be inevitably explaining to quite a few angry customers why you can't do anything to help them. Pass.
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#224A common theme that has been appearing is how hard it is to actually speak to somebody about stuff (Apple, Google, Twitter, etc...) when shit hits the fan. I earn most of my income via Apple & Google, but if I want support from Apple, it takes 2-3 days for a response (I've made them 5 figures in revenue in the past year alone). There isn't even a method that I could find for me to contact Google if I have a legitimat…
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Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the suspension notice I received I had a way to appeal it.
I received a notification in adsense that I was in violation of a policy and clicked the "ok", or "fixed" button when I removed the page. They don't just ban people and walk away unless you plain didn't read the TOS and are breaking big rules like clicking your own ads, doing shady stuff, etc.
Simply not true. I was banned from adsense for "manipulating ads" or some such thing. I of course had never done this, and had actually put a LOT of effort into making sure that there was no way I could be flagged for click fraud. I actively told any family or friends that knew about my project to NEVER click on an ad on my site. It just wasn't worth the risk of getting banned from adsense, since most other networks pay significantly less for significantly more headaches. I had a high traffic site that was bringing in a lot of money without any need to cheat (so why risk everything for a few bucks?).
Well I ended up getting banned regardless for who knows why, maybe someone had it out for me and committed click fraud on the site through a bunch of proxy servers, I have no idea. Google refused to give me any information whatsoever. They did allow me to "appeal" to them, but it was clear in their automated response that no human read my appeal.
Anyways, I'll never trust Google again for anything business critical. By which I mean any project that relies heavily on Google in some way is very high risk. If something goes wrong (ie they shut down a service you rely on etc) they won't care to work with you in the slightest (unless you already have SV connections like rap genius).
On a side note, I did have a Google sales team reach out and contact me about a year later asking if I wanted to get involved in some new ad product they were working on. It was quite a slap in the face when I had to tell them that I was actually banned from adsense. Of course they responded by telling me there was nothing they could do to help overturn my ban. I guess even people who work at Google can't get actual feedback from Google.
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It's interesting seeing Google as a grown up company, with many of the flaws they acquired early on still intact and at Google scale. You can be spending $100ks per month on adwords and still not have a competent person to call when you need help. EVen if you do, they don't know much and can't do much. Realistically, it's not much better than an outsourced call centre and much worse than the far less profitable Big A…
This. Google needs one Jobsian hard-ass in charge of product marketing/quality to keep this swarm of ADD mayhem under control and set priorities. Around Android 2.3 I was a huge fanboy because the platform had so much potential. Now? The platform still has so much potential, and I'm only a fan because it's an open-source platform with real consumer adoption - not because I think it's actually good . Microsoft shovele…
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#227I know Google's policy on this, but I completely understand where the developer is coming from. Google has been taking a collective shit on every developer out of its list of seller countries[0], which is ridiculously short and hasn't been expanded in god knows how long, and even then, there were only a handful of countries added. On Google's page about seller countries they say: "We're working hard to add more count…
It's interesting seeing Google as a grown up company, with many of the flaws they acquired early on still intact and at Google scale. You can be spending $100ks per month on adwords and still not have a competent person to call when you need help. EVen if you do, they don't know much and can't do much. Realistically, it's not much better than an outsourced call centre and much worse than the far less profitable Big A…
Disclaimer: I'm lucky to be in a country (UK) with good Google coverage. That said, their customer experience for buying a phone online (nexus 4) is superb and far above amazons. Their website is clean, fast, and usable, and I've had no problems through it, whilst cancelling and re-ordering, tracking my orders etc. Friends who have used it have all had great experiences too.
The availability/country thing is an issue, and lack of phone support etc., but their online presence is fantastic.
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The app in question was using Paypal. Right or wrong, there is no way Google is going to let developers use Paypal instead of their own Google billing, for which they keep 30%.
I think you're missing the point where - Google wouldn't even accept the developer into their own 'Take 30% of my income' program - Other popular apps get away with that (using Paypal) just fine So.. arbitrary, idiotic and no way to talk to a human. There's no way to justify that.
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Each one of those ton of things have been solved by Apple, Samsung and BlackBerry in many of the countries Google doesn't support. They can copy what any one of these 3 did if they really wanted to help developers.
Can they? What if the process is patented?