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Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by sirkneeland »

darkmighty wrote: post #190
untog wrote: post #2

As someone who takes a lot of photos with my phone, this interests me a lot. Though as someone who has previously used Windows Phone, I'm very skeptical about going back to it. This is the first device that makes me wonder about Nokia's WP-exclusive decision. They didn't go with Android to avoid becoming "yet another" Android manufacturer, and I agree with that sentiment (look at how few are turning a profit). Howeve…

The image stabilization and a proper optics set seem nice, but honestly 41MP sensor is practically useless itself. Even professional cameras with high quality sensors are not usually sensor resolution limited - i.e. increasing resolution wouldn't be much use since at the pixel level the image is already at a significant noise level/optics limited. For such a small sensor and f-number, I guess 41MP is not only useless…

RTFWP (Read The Fking White Paper) to see how much more this is than just a big sensor.

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Post by tommis »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #192
tommis wrote: post #127

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Install "HERE Drive+": http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/here-drive/31bbc... Download the offline maps you need and you are good to go! There's a manual here if you need one: http://www.nokia.com/us-en/support/product/nokia-drive-plus/

Looks nice, but I don't drive!

The HERE Drive+ is designed specifically for in-car-use (to work as standalone satnav replacement), but they also have "HERE Maps", which will give you public transport and walking directions: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/here-maps/6c2863...

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Post by kalleboo »

untog wrote: post #74
gebe wrote: post #66

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Nokia Maps is _amazing_ and has been since the Symbian days, even more so by the fact that you can download maps beforehand (whole countries) and use them offline. Utterly unparalleled might be a bit harsh.

Last time I tried Nokia Maps (on a WP7 device probably a year ago, admittedly) I tried searching for a nearby location by entering a partial address. It failed. I tried searching for a cross street without using name suffixes. It failed. Point is, everyone has different needs from a Maps app. I don't drive, so don't need navigation. I just need to enter an address quickly and find out where it is, so offline download…

> Point is, everyone has different needs from a Maps app.

Exactly. For instance Nokia Maps don't cover Japan, so they're a complete non-starter for me.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

tommis wrote: post #222
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #192

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Looks nice, but I don't drive!

The HERE Drive+ is designed specifically for in-car-use (to work as standalone satnav replacement), but they also have "HERE Maps", which will give you public transport and walking directions: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/here-maps/6c2863...

What is available for the cn market? My phone is locked to that even though I'm American myself.

I was use ping here maps, or HERE whatever, there are a lot of them and I'm not sure what each does. It didn't help me find something as simple as the post office when I needed to mail off tax forms last month, which google maps and apple maps had no problem with. Very disappointing.

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Post by sgloutnikov »

lotso wrote: post #195
Steko wrote: post #188

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"It's superior to my old iPhones in almost every way." Unless you count battery life, GPU, probably CPU, form factor, build quality, the wildly superior app, media and accessory ecosystems. But other than that what have the Cupertianians done for us lately?

As an iPhone user, I can chime in with my opinion. It looks like the iPhone and 920 battery life are both pretty abysmal http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/phones-3/best-phone-batt... CPU and GPU for the end user isn't important. What is important is the perf of the UI, which WP7/8 have always been buttery smooth when compared to iOS and Android devices with better hardware. I'd also say Nokia is very closely behind…

Apple better than Nokia in build quality? Oh my... Do I need to bring out the drop-tests various blogs have done?

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Post by Steko »

sgloutnikov wrote: post #225
lotso wrote: post #195

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As an iPhone user, I can chime in with my opinion. It looks like the iPhone and 920 battery life are both pretty abysmal http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/phones-3/best-phone-batt... CPU and GPU for the end user isn't important. What is important is the perf of the UI, which WP7/8 have always been buttery smooth when compared to iOS and Android devices with better hardware. I'd also say Nokia is very closely behind…

Apple better than Nokia in build quality? Oh my... Do I need to bring out the drop-tests various blogs have done?

Sure bring whatever you want. The build quality of iphones is attested to in scores of independent reviews and it's not the same thing as drop test resistance.

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Post by kalleboo »

hbharadwaj wrote: post #180
Metrop0218 wrote: post #169

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I doubt it can top this though.

True - I doubt that any of the hardware manufacturers for Android have the technology to top what Nokia did with Lumia 1020. Nokia is completely invested in camera unlike HTC, Samsung, Motorola etc.,

The only Android manufacturer that seems to care at all about camera quality is Sony, and even they haven't really put their full emphasis on that lately.

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Post by jlarocco »

vanderZwan wrote: post #165
slantyyz wrote: post #54

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>> 99.9% of people who will buy this phone will never have a need for 41 megapixels. Nokia's really screwing up the messaging on this, as people are fixating on the megapixel count -- they are missing the forest for the trees. The best images you will get out of this phone will actually be the oversampled images, which have significantly fewer megapixels.

I do believe Nokia has been very clear that the high megapixels is meant to be used as supersampling to reduce noise in normal sized pictures. They are after all targeting the enthusiast photographer who likes to (believe he) understands how camera's work. Also, from an engineering point of view it's pretty neat: if the idea is to downsize the final picture to 5 mp, while using cropping on the pre-downsampled image t…

No, I'm pretty sure they're going for the "OMG! A lot of mega-pixels, it must be better" crowd.

Most enthusiast photographers will realize 41 MP with a tiny, tiny image sensor is going to be pointless.

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Post by schuke »

Steko wrote: post #226
sgloutnikov wrote: post #225

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Apple better than Nokia in build quality? Oh my... Do I need to bring out the drop-tests various blogs have done?

Sure bring whatever you want. The build quality of iphones is attested to in scores of independent reviews and it's not the same thing as drop test resistance.

I think Nokia phones are more "sturdy", exemplified by its cheap phones that just won't break. Apple is more meticulous I'd say. I have a Lumia 920. There are just tiny little seams and creaks that one wouldn't find on an iPhone.

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Post by ximeng »

maaaats wrote: post #164
mayanksinghal wrote: post #141

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Offline maps has been available since at least 2 years. I think you had to long tap a point, choose Save offline from the menu, choose the dimensions of the square that pops up and the square becomes available offline.

Yes, but that downloaded map data is useless. You cannot search in it, find any routes in it or anything. You have to use the net and query Google. So it's more caching of the view than actual map data.

It also only lets you download 5 "squares" at a time for some reason.
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