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Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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Another question is.. how does a well made car burst into flames so quickly. There was a lot of discussion about various aspects of how cars behave when they crash, in a previous thread. But, speaking as a former firefighter, the tl/dr; is "cars do sometimes catch fire and burn when they crash". Hollywood style explosions don't normally happen, and car fires resulting from wrecks don't always happen, or even happen t…

Interesting parallel (I know the events are not equivalent, but still): Here's a report of a Mercedes crashed at Nurburgring by a test driver: http://www.automotto.com/2014-mercedes-benz-sls-amg-black-se... Both the test driver and the passenger walked away unharmed. Do note that this was on the track, where the cars are supposedly driven at much higher speeds than on regular roads.

It's one thing to run off a track onto grass, even if you're flipping and rolling at 180 mph.

It's another to make friendly with a tree at a 100 mph lower speed.

It's not speed that kills, it's the sudden deceleration at the end.

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Wonder if his notes could be found, I imagine they would have been cloud backed.

@dllthomas "Of course they were; that's how the NSA found out." Right. Yet to our knowledge the NSA does not have delete privileges to the data centers, meaning that copies of his notes most likely still survive on either local or cloud based storage.

Yet to our knowledge, the NSA doesn't have read access... until they did a few weeks ago.

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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As a firefighter, I've seen many cars burn like that. That's what vehicle fires look like. Car interiors are _full_ of flammable stuff. Seat cushions, plastics, rubber... etc... The energy output of a burning car is really incredible.

As an experienced Internet denizen who has seen dozens of conspiracy theories play out, the person I'm responding to is playing a fool's game and will be shouted down and ignored by everyone who wants a neat little conspiratorial story to go with their morning breakfast. Clear, simple explanations are death to conspiracy theories, so they are ignored and the people who make them are vilified at every turn.

Don't even get me started on the fuel load of your typical commercial office (e.g. the 80th or 90th floors of the World Trade Center).

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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Again, you make no sense. No one attacked the "mere existence" of alternative theories. I challenged you to explain why yours is any more credible than others, something which you apparently cannot do, hence your little tirade about what HN is all about. And, I plainly I didn't "shoot the mesenger". I specifically questioned your message. In fact, you acknowledged this in your previous reply when you "found it remark…

Edit your noise to about 1/5th the volume and it might be worth skimming. Your prattle is boring.

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Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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I am afraid Taylorious misses the point. I am afraid sage_joch misses the point in an even worse way. You may be surprised to hear this: it does not matter politically one tiny iota whether the FBI killed Michael Hastings. He's just one journalist, there are many like him. What matters is what happens after Mr. Hastings' death. If the FBI is to be trusted, they will deny involvement on the low and the high: a trustwo…

Well, this comment made me think. It's not every day you get called a potential NSA provocateur. But I'm not sure what you're suggesting with respect to my future comments. When I comment on political topics, I have a couple motivations: to shine light on a potentially bleak-looking situation, and to bounce ideas off a community of incredibly smart people. Are you saying I should avoid any kind of speculation? That m…

Since you're not answering I'm going to take a guess: you're suggesting that since the actual reality of this whole situation is murky, I should tone down my speculation. And the more I think about it, the more I think you are right (if that's what you're saying).

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You're being dishonest. That isn't what 'conspiracy theory' means and you know it. Noun phrases aren't defined by taking their words one by one; they have to be understood as a unit.

Wikipedia again: "Originally a neutral term, since the mid-1960s it has acquired a somewhat derogatory meaning, implying a paranoid tendency to see the influence of some malign covert agency in events.[5] The term is sometimes used to automatically dismiss claims that are deemed ridiculous, misconceived, paranoid, unfounded, outlandish or irrational.[6][page needed] A proven conspiracy theory, such as the notion that…

Nobody's falling for anything except the people who think English is controlled by a secret cabal.

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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You can put the car in neutral or turn off the ignition.

If you do that, your steering wheel will lock, perhaps sending you into a tree or something.

If you kill the ignition you lose power steering and possibly power brakes but wheel doesn't lock for good reason.
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