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I'm a shut-in. This is my story

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Re: I'm a shut-in. This is my story

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I will read it to the end, half way, got to go, but two things: I am year older than you, you know what psychologist said to me, only time I ever visited her(I had to, for some paperwork)? I am still not grown up. If you are under 30, you are still not fully developed.

Second, there seems to be unlucky amount of not your kind of people around you. I have managed to find people, who seem "default" on the surface, because they have to, but the praise different. Almost any kind, there is no "you are too weird". And it helps, its awesome.

Re: I'm a shut-in. This is my story

#222
I read this and had this small voice in the back of my head translating what I read into "Look at me! I'm special! I'm a shut-in! I do it because I'm special!"

In reality the author is just alike everyone else, with fears and emotions which caused him to shut himself in and rationalize it with some meditative jargon.

Re: I'm a shut-in. This is my story

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You're a 23 year old boy who thinks too much. I hate to sound like a cliché, but, it's just a phase!

I have to agree on this point somewhat. I'm not saying you're "just some 23 year old boy who think too much" (Altho I'm leaning that way), but the difference in thinking, attitude and well-being between teens to early twenties to late twenties and into thirties and beyond can be drastically different in each.

Re: I'm a shut-in. This is my story

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post #222

I read this and had this small voice in the back of my head translating what I read into "Look at me! I'm special! I'm a shut-in! I do it because I'm special!" In reality the author is just alike everyone else, with fears and emotions which caused him to shut himself in and rationalize it with some meditative jargon.

Don't think so. That rather reads like the description of an undiagnosed asperger or not-so-dramatic (not in a sense of not severe, in a sense of "not screaming when overloaden" unlike in movies) autistic patterns. He even mentions an Aspie-board, maybe he is aware of it but didn't want to mention it in his article?

The water, the need for routine, the unabilty to fully play chess when in a social context, the need to simulate social interactions - the "funny" thing is that if that diagnosis is right, he is not faking by faking it, it's simply him.

The not so funny thing is that if that diagnosis were right, many comments in this thread like "we all feel like we are not normal" mask that condition, and lead to unhelpful advice.

Re: I'm a shut-in. This is my story

#226
I used to shut myself in a lot of time when I was playing poker avidly. Instead of going to parties, bars, socialize with friends, there were always tournaments to grind. Putting in more hands meant cutting down on variance, meant being able to deal better with bad luck and facilitating a more consistent winning playing style.

Obviously it was the thing I loved at that moment, the riches allured to me and my friends didn't "Get" the amounts I would be playing for anyway. They also didn't "get it" why it sucked so hard to end up 11/1500 in a big tournament. (Hey you still won right?).

You're right when you see relationships don't work when you always have a communication problem.

Usually though, the problem is not that people don't understand you - (sidenote: i know there are just stupid people who don't, or don't want to. You don't need them anyway). The problem is you won't let people understand you, because you are ignorant, arrogant and self-righteous. No offence but, if you were such a genius you wouldn't be working on Ruby projects (no pun.) People probably would understand you, and you would probably have better socializing experiences if you tried.

Seems you sucked at this stuff when you were a kid, and now when you've grown up enough to be able to understand yourself and put everything into words, you still decide its the best route to go.

Well die lonely then if you like it. It's not for me.

Re: I'm a shut-in. This is my story

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You're a 23 year old boy who thinks too much. I hate to sound like a cliché, but, it's just a phase!

I have to agree on this point somewhat. I'm not saying you're "just some 23 year old boy who think too much" (Altho I'm leaning that way), but the difference in thinking, attitude and well-being between teens to early twenties to late twenties and into thirties and beyond can be drastically different in each.

Yes and we have to keep in mind that people grow up a lot slower these days in well developed nations. In other words, we're spoiled rotten kids at 25.

So not having found your role in life at 23 is not uncommon these days.

Re: I'm a shut-in. This is my story

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>Over concerned humans must cause at least some percentage of suicides. Someone needs to compile the stats and do a TED talk stat. Now that's an interesting hypothesis. I have seen a study on how insufficient parental attention increases the risk of suicide in teenagers but not this. Edit: searching for "overprotection and suicide" ("overprotection" is the best keyword I could come up with; I did the search without t…

England has some suicide and deliberate self harm research done by "University of Oxford". (Uh, that's not "Oxford University" or any of the colleges.) You could noodle through their website? ( http://cebmh.warne.ox.ac.uk/csr/ ) You might remember the reports a few years ago about cortisol levels in children at nurseries, compared to children at home? People said that cortisol was a stress hormone, and thus it's bad…

> "University of Oxford". (Uh, that's not "Oxford University" or any of the colleges.)

The University of Oxford is indeed the ancient and well-known university informally called Oxford University.

Re: I'm a shut-in. This is my story

#229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I figured much the same way with mind's eye; much like my thoughts, I "visualize" in a very abstract fashion. I don't see the object, I just know it. So there are in fact people, who see it? I do. I don't really know what to say about it, so if you have any specific questions, feel free. I'll try to explain what it's like. Example: when I see a math expression x times y, I mentally see a rectangle with side length la…

This was really interesting. There's some stuff that seems similar to the way I work and some stuff that is completely different. Like for you, you process math as a visual representation of what's happening. For me, math is just a written language. I don't see anything, I just read it, write in it, and think it when neccesary. If there's something I can't understand without a diagram I can try to imagine one, but I…

For me, math is just a written language. I don't see anything, I just read it, write in it, and think it when neccesary.

Would you mind sending me an email, or putting an email address in the "about" section of your profile? I was hoping to get your thoughts on something.

Re: I'm a shut-in. This is my story

#230
Funny how many things are similar in my own biography.

OP: chess, checkers - me: school olympics, chemistry, math, physics

OP: tour trauma, when asking tour guide a question, everybody laughed - me: tour trauma when tour guide played naughty joke on my mom and everybody laughed

OP: abusive dad, divorced early - me: no dad, left at birth (fortunately awesome grandpa that taught me Ohm's law, how to drill, solder and lots of other stuff)

OP and me: interest in psychology (for me ended with learning what Freud was saying, I have no business in branch of science where name of such clueless bent puppy is remembered)

OP: crappy kindergarten experience, me: spent few hours in kindergarten, don't remember anything but I never went back there, I cried too much when they tried to drag me there

Fortunately, I had (still have) great, stable mother, I had close friends (full honesty with them, nearly kind of mind melt) until I was 17 or so (OP had some till 12).

I'm 34. My true self kind of melded with my fake self. They switch in seconds. When I'm interacting with acquaintances I still fake it. Often I fake amusement because I want to come off as cheerful, but I'm rarely truly amused. Pretty often I fake quite well which makes me proud. But I don't have to fake with few people that are close to me. I just have to restrain myself from exposing full me in some cases, but I guess most people do that even (especially?) with their loved ones.

I went different way than OP, I was madly in love two times as a teenager, now I have de-facto wife. She's awesome. After 8 years or so of the relationship, from time to time I feel that I love her and I feel the urge to tell her that. Not sure if that's unusual but I think it's a good sign.

But I know I chose one path. And sometimes I long for the other, for being a shut-in. I hate going out. I hate meeting people who are not my closes friends. I don't eagrely await meeting even my closest friends. Social interaction exhausts me. I used my relationship to shed off almost all of my friends. Still I think living among people takes at least 80% of my energy. I have only 20% left for doing the stuff I actually care about.

As they say, grass is always greener on the other side. I'd probably be same looser with too high IQ and too little motivation if I were a shut-in. But one can dream.

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