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Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by jknoepfler »

alpineman wrote: post #98

>> “I’ve been thinking about writing an essay on the kind of mistakes that are made by college graduates booing or otherwise dissing AI,” he said. As if speaking to all of Gen Z, he added: “You guys have the opportunity to be generation AI—where you come into the workforce saying, ‘I know this a lot better than all of you" Quite patronising. Maybe they really do know it a lot better than you, Reid, but not in the way…

Yeah that struck me as shallow, tone-deaf and ignorant.

People have very good, very legitimate reasons for "booing" GenAI.

Most human interactions with GenAI are either with corpo sludge or overly cheerful, dangerously useless text generators.

The technology is steadily eroding businesses from the inside out in the same way offshoring did in the 90s.

There's a massive crash looming that is going to crater the economy for years... caused by criminally irresponsible circular investment and silicon valley grift.

Not really what I'd want to tether my identity to.

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Post by watwut »

nailer wrote: post #159
AJRF wrote: post #20

How is Reid Hoffman relevant? Someone like Elon being asked for their opinion on tech - I kind of understand - was at least at the coal face of SpaceX and Tesla for a time, seemed to understand the tech and was not terrible when it came to direction. Zuck I'd get, Bezos, Dario, Sam - but I don't actually get why Reid is always in the conversation - he's never been in front of anything

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Leans left as in "not yet sufficiently captured by far right".

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by jknoepfler »

emil-lp wrote: post #156
mahoho wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's time to give up your silly cynicism, embrace being a professional slop shoveler and doing work with higher volume, more repetition and less creativity than ever.

I've embraced it, and I'm coding faster than all my colleagues, some days I open more PRs than the rest of my team combined.

I sincerely hope this comment is satire.

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Post by simianwords »

xnx wrote: post #87
AJRF wrote: post #20

How is Reid Hoffman relevant? Someone like Elon being asked for their opinion on tech - I kind of understand - was at least at the coal face of SpaceX and Tesla for a time, seemed to understand the tech and was not terrible when it came to direction. Zuck I'd get, Bezos, Dario, Sam - but I don't actually get why Reid is always in the conversation - he's never been in front of anything

Is Elon credible? He's been wrong so so many times about "full" self driving: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autono...

You can’t do an unweighted analysis like so. Even if he did get a single thing right, you need to weigh it by the impact.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

bobson381 wrote: post #206
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the current paradigm of growth is ending, rather messily There is zero evidence for this time being different. Instead, there is evidence of zombie leverage and corruption coming home to roost while the global growth engine shifts towards China.

it is the first time we have harnessed all of the energy on the planet at once to power a single interconnected advanced system across continents. Mostly I'm drawing from a thermodynamics outlook[0]. previous collapses had unused high quality energy in other areas to fall back on. I'd love to read more about the growth towards China being sustainable in that sense. [0] https://youtu.be/5WPB2u8EzL8?si=doERoIYuYZYHLAAZ

> first time we have harnessed all of the energy on the planet at once

How are you defining “all of the energy on the planet”? By conventional definitions, no, we harness a tiny fraction of even just insolation.

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

mrhottakes wrote: post #178
jerf wrote: post #70

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So, a guy with probably one of the largest incentives in the world to trash xAI is trashing xAI? The information content of this is rather minimal. Even if everything he says is literally true it's hard to tell through the massive, massive vested interest he has. And it doesn't help that... 'Hoffman, who is an investor in both Anthropic and OpenAI, pushed back firmly on the narrative that the two companies are in a z…

> This is just trash talk. Trash talk is Musk's entire M.O., so that seems like a good way to proceed in 2026.

s/good/common or popular/

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Post by zdragnar »

pydry wrote: post #210
epistasis wrote: post #194

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I don't know anybody with Hoffman's level of wealth, but I have come across a fair number of people with close to a billion dollars of wealth that now split their time between enjoying time with their own family and then trying to pursue philanthropy and non-profits meant to improve everybody's life in the community. I run into them because of their attempts to improve the community. And there are those who do it sup…

Ive also run into a few and they were without question some of the biggest assholes I ever met in my life. I don't think theyre special. Years of being surrounded by yes men and sycophants will probably do that to most people. One of them in particular was much less toxic and relatable pre-billions.

> I don't think theyre special

Where did you get that from the comment you replied to? They merely pointed out you couldn't paint everyone with the same brush, which is pretty much the definition of 'not special'.

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Post by win311fwg »

jedimastert wrote: post #153
andsoitis wrote: post #143

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> ok boomer. Reid Hoffman is not a boomer. He was born in 1967. Also: ageism isn't sexy.

The usage of the phrase has evolved past carrying about the actual generation (kind of like how people still talk about "millennials" like they're college students). Also, Hoffman very intentionally opened the door to talking about generational differences, this kind of feels like the commenter may have touched a nerve

> kind of like how people still talk about "millennials" like they're college students

Is that really an evolution? "Millennial" was coined to refer to the cohort that gradated from high school in the year 2000. Not all high school graduates become college students, of course, but if we are generalizing it isn't unreasonable to think of recent high school graduates as college students.

Now, there was nothing in the definition to declare if you must continue to recognize them for who they are going forward (i.e. 40-somethings now), or if you are to remember them in that moment as high school graduates, many of whom were college bound. So still thinking of "millennials" as being college students is a fair interpretation before evolution.

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