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Love the hypocrisy (my IP is blocked): 403 ERROR The request could not be satisfied. Generated by cloudfront (CloudFront)
CloudFront may sound like Cloudflare, but it is an unrelated AWS service ( https://aws.amazon.com/cloudfront/ ) (Disclaimer: I work for Cloudflare)
Wait, so a private company in the business of men kicking balls around a field was able to make this happen without government support ?! How?
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> the fact is that cloudflare are providing access to illegal content Why make CloudFlare ultimately responsible though? There are lots of companies between users and the servers providing pirated content. Cloudflare is just one step in the whole chain. Why not eg block Google Chrome? In any case, blocking Cloudflare was a stupid thing to do. Especially because it didn't anything to solve the actual problem.
I think the difference is that Cloudflare is the one party providing streaming access for their customers: not just anyone can proxy the data through Cloudflare, they need to be a Cloudflare customer first. When I'm posting this message to Hacker News, I'm the "customer" of this website. I'm not customer of all the intermediate nodes in the chain. So if I were to write something illegal and HN would be irresponsive t…
The Digital Markets Act speaks of "conduits" instead of speaking of the specific form the conduits may take. It does not give special rights to someone who forwards IP packets unmodified or to someone who receives IP packets and reissues other IP packets or to someone who changes the IP addresses in the packets. It only cares about the net effect of the transmission, and the fact is that Cloudflare is a conduit with caching.
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Sure I can: whatever hosting service they are using. Find where they are hosted, e.g. AWS, and ask Amazon to bring a zone down for Spain for 5 hours.
"find out where they are hosted" is doing a lot of lifting here against a massive company whose business model is hiding where end users are hiding.
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> the fact is that cloudflare are providing access to illegal content Why make CloudFlare ultimately responsible though? There are lots of companies between users and the servers providing pirated content. Cloudflare is just one step in the whole chain. Why not eg block Google Chrome? In any case, blocking Cloudflare was a stupid thing to do. Especially because it didn't anything to solve the actual problem.
Because they own the IPs that pirates are connecting to which makes it relevant for those IPs to be blocked. They are the easiest IPs to find since you can just resolve the domain of the piracy site.
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I mean, how do we qualify which companies get punished for which crimes? Do we punish gun manufacturers for someone being shot? Kitchen utensil companies for someone being stabbed? Car manufacturers for car crashes? Road construction companies for human trafficking? How deep does this go? Is a steel foundry responsible for the stabbing? Is a camera lens manufacturer responsible for illegal porn?
That is something we'll need to figure out. Just because it requires some work to figure out where to draw the line, it doesn't make it wrong to draw one. Banks are generally required to check that their customers are not laundering money. In a lot of countries it's illegal to buy or sell goods that you know are very likely stolen. It don't think it's outrageous to expect more action from Cloudflare when they must kn…
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A report content form, like DMCA, with support people behind processing the tickets. It already exists. When there is phishing or pedo content, you think they wait for court order or react to abuse ? They are distributing content through their servers, not just displaying it. Every hosting and CDN companies has abuse department, it's a normal part of the process. Here, Cloudflare is aware, and chooses to ignore the a…
Afaik, Cloudflare are asked to block an IP, to which they answer that is not a valid IP, but a shared one, please be more precise. Being more precise takes effort and time, so they opted to ban the IP at ISP level, and they don't have to ask anyone.
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They already do this. Free tier IPs are separate from Pro tier, Enterprise tier, etc.
They must not be doing a good enough job if legitimate sites are being taken out by these blocks too.
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> Which are part of the Spanish government. Judges in Spain are not part of the government ("Gobierno"). They are part of the Poder Judicial, the judiciary. The Spanish Constitution separates these clearly, give it a skim if you haven't already.
The judiciary is part of the government. Being an independent branch doesn't change that. Government doesn't just mean legislative.