There are plenty of old Dell and HP laptops with replaceable batteries which can only be found on eBay or some random seller that does who knows what under the refurbishing process.
All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
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Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
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Seems entirely reasonable. Embedded batteries have a lot of advantages. Cheaper, higher battery capacity, water proof, smaller, stronger. I think this will largely just make the mid to low tier android market in the EU shittier.
Citation needed. All of those can be achieved with replaceable batteries.
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
People shouldn't have to go to a special store or buy special tools requiring special skills to change a battery.
I'd rather my phone be waterproof than have a battery I can replace myself
You've bought into and are now parroting Apple & Samsung marketing BS.
P.S. it had a headphone jack too. Gaskets over the ports. The headphone jack was the first victim of "but muh waterproof" despite all the other holes and cutouts.
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
People shouldn't have to go to a special store or buy special tools requiring special skills to change a battery.
How do you feel about the batteries in electric vehicles? What about wearable devices like a smartwatch, headphones, smart glasses? Should all these be consumer-replaceable without tools, regardless of the effect on the other things people value in these devices (waterproofing, size and weight, battery life, etc.)? FYI I do not work for anything close to the consumer tech industry.
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd rather my phone be waterproof than have a battery I can replace myself
Those are not mutually exclusive at all, and there were waterproof phones with replaceable batteries (without even needing a screwdriver). This is mostly an excuse.
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#226Aren't today's phone batteries already replaceable with commercially available tools? I can walk into a non-apple store with my iPhone and walk out with a replaced battery 20 minutes later. This isn't even what drives obsolesce of phones, it's software updates. If you really want to be able to self-swap your own battery, you can just buy an Android that has a replaceable battery. Do we need to regulate something that…
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
This could be "fixed" right now by a software update that limits the maximum charge level to 80% of capacity. However, this comes at the cost of how many minutes of runtime your phone can operate. So manufactures might just responds to this by making your phone heavier with a bigger battery that is being under utilized.
This sounds great. I would've loved to have set my phone to charge up to only 60% or 80% of its design capacity to reduce wear. I do this on my laptop.
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
People shouldn't have to go to a special store or buy special tools requiring special skills to change a battery.
Says who? Not all devices can have the same level of repairability by laypeople. What if I complained that todays' CPUs are too miniaturized and that in my time I could swap the individual vacuum tubes in case something went wrong?
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
People shouldn't have to go to a special store or buy special tools requiring special skills to change a battery.
Says who? Not all devices can have the same level of repairability by laypeople. What if I complained that todays' CPUs are too miniaturized and that in my time I could swap the individual vacuum tubes in case something went wrong?
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
People shouldn't have to go to a special store or buy special tools requiring special skills to change a battery.
In a perfect world, sure. But people also want phones these days that are physically durable, have some degree of waterproofing/water resistance, maximum battery life, etc. Many of the demands and expectations of a modern phone aren't easily compatible with a replaceable battery design that can withstand the incompetence of the average end user.
Anecdotally on this front, I have had to replace the screens of my iphones at least three times in the past (different models). Incidentally, I have never needed to replace the screen of a phone that had a replaceable battery. YMMV, but this seems needlessly defeatist.
>maximum battery life
One could also claim that bespoke charging cables allow for faster charging or longer battery life, but I don't know any iPhone users that are a crying a river for their deprecated non-standard chargers. But again, YMMV I guess.