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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by dmoy »

britzkopf wrote: post #185
echelon wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

> And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lots of other hard hitting platform engineering work. Serious senior engineering for over a decade You sound like a pro wrestler. I'd like to know what "hard-hitting" engineering work is. Hydraulic hammers?

I mean five nines is legitimately difficult to accomplish for a lot of problem spaces.

It's also like.... difficult to honestly and accurately measure. And account for whether or not you're getting lucky based on your underlying dependencies (servers, etc) not crashing as much as advertised, or if it's actually five nines. Or whether you've run it for a month and gotten I always assume most people claiming five nines are just not measuring it correctly, or have not exercised the full set of things that will go wrong over a long enough period of time (dc failures, network partitions, config errors, bad network switches that drop only UDP traffic on certain ports, erroneous ACL changes, bad software updates, etc etc)

Maybe they did it all correct though, in which case, yea, seems hard hitting to me.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by rurp »

ericmcer wrote: post #165
echelon wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

I mean at this point can we just conclude that there are a group of engineers who claim to have incredible success with it and a group that claim it is unreliable and cannot be trusted to do complex tasks. I struggle to believe that a ton of seemingly intelligent software engineers are too dumb to figure out how to use Claude code to get reliable results, it seems much more likely to me that it can do well at isolate…

Right, I keep seeing people talking past each other in this same way. I don't doubt folks when they say they coded up some greenfield project 10x faster with Claude, it's clearly great at many of those tasks! But then so many of them claim that their experience should translate to every developer in every scenario, to the point of saying they must be using it wrong if they aren't having the same experience.

Many software devs work in teams on large projects where LLMs have a more nuanced value. I myself mostly work on a large project inside a large organization. Spitting out lines of code is practically never a bottleneck for me. Running a suite of agents to generate out a ton of code for my coworkers to review doesn't really solve a problem that I have. I still use Claude in other ways and find it useful, but I'm certainly not 10x more productive with it.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by ipaddr »

echelon wrote: post #132
rurp wrote: post #90

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HN is a big community that has always had a mix of people who value newness as a feature vs those who prioritize simplicity and reliability. Unless you're recognizing the exact same names taking these contradictory opinions it's probably different groups of people for the most part. It seems like every LLM thread for the past couple years is full of posts saying that the latest hot AI tool/approach has made them unbe…

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

I'm getting 1,000x improvement building notepad applications with 6 9s. No one is faster.

Need some help selling these notepad apps, do you have a prompt for that?

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by Archit3ch »

embedding-shape wrote: post #163
Someone1234 wrote: post #134

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Codex just changed the way they calculate usage with a massive negative impact. Before a Subscription was the cheapest way to gain Codex usage, but now they've essentially having API and Subscription pricing match (e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage). The only value of a subscription now is that you get the web version of ChatGPT "free." In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage. edit:…

> e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage [...] In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage. I don't think it's made out like that, I'm on the ChatGPT Pro plan for personal usage, and for a client I'm using the OpenAI API, both almost only using GPT 5.4 xhigh, done pretty much 50/50 work on client/personal projects, and clients API usage is up to 400 USD right now after a week of work, and Cha…

This. ChatGPT Pro personal at $20/month and using GPT 5.4 xhigh is the best deal currently. I don't know if they are actually losing money or betting on people staying well under limits. Clearly they charge extra to businesses on the API plans to make up for it.

In the future, open models and cheaper inference could cover the loss-leading strategies we see today.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by cube00 »

skywhopper wrote: post #89
jimkleiber wrote: post #58

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I looked at my cc usage and I was at 90% of my weekly allowance after 3 days of use...BUT, if I looked at the usage stats with the chart, it showed, on a scale of 1-4 intensity of usage (4 being most intense), the three days as such: Day 1: 2 Day 2: 3 Day 3: 1 Not sure how I can hit such limits so quickly with such low scores on its own chart.

The limits are smaller now, is how.

Which is fine, but the way they're tightening the screws, and not saying until they announce the results of their A/B tests is very frustrating.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by p_stuart82 »

tornikeo wrote: post #141
tomasphan wrote: post #25

98% uptime is not great. Our eng department is thinking about going half half with Codex but of course there’s a switching cost.

I'm VERY curious about your case. What kind of switching costs do you guys have? I'm working at a very young startup that is still not locked into either AI provider harnesses -- what causes switching costs, just the subscription leftovers or something else?

subscription leftovers are noise. the real switching cost is the harness glue.

prompts. tool calling quirks. evals. auth. retries. all the weird failure modes your team already paid to learn.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by Someone1234 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #163
Someone1234 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Codex just changed the way they calculate usage with a massive negative impact. Before a Subscription was the cheapest way to gain Codex usage, but now they've essentially having API and Subscription pricing match (e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage). The only value of a subscription now is that you get the web version of ChatGPT "free." In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage. edit:…

> e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage [...] In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage. I don't think it's made out like that, I'm on the ChatGPT Pro plan for personal usage, and for a client I'm using the OpenAI API, both almost only using GPT 5.4 xhigh, done pretty much 50/50 work on client/personal projects, and clients API usage is up to 400 USD right now after a week of work, and Cha…

Right, because you're on the old and not new structure.

They just rolled it out for new subscribers and existing ones will be getting it in the "coming weeks." Enterprise already got hit with this from my understanding.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by bmurphy1976 »

mvkel wrote: post #8

Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…

There's another piece of the puzzle. Dario has very clearly stated they are not taking the OpenAI approach of spending $trillion to scale right now and assume the money comes later. They are spending significantly less and working towards profitability sooner.

That means they are going to be far more constrained infrastructurally than some of the competition. I think this is some of the constraints that we are seeing.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by Someone1234 »

postalcoder wrote: post #161
Someone1234 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Codex just changed the way they calculate usage with a massive negative impact. Before a Subscription was the cheapest way to gain Codex usage, but now they've essentially having API and Subscription pricing match (e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage). The only value of a subscription now is that you get the web version of ChatGPT "free." In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage. edit:…

This is not true. The change applies to the credits , ie the incremental usage that exceeds your subscription limits.

OpenAI's own help page suggests otherwise.
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