Miasma: A tool to trap AI web scrapers in an endless poison pit

Post by 250call » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 12:11 AM UTC

101008 wrote: post #206

Based on this comment: > I definitely get this. The thing that gives me hope is that you only need to poison a very small % of content to damage AI models pretty significantly. It helps combat the mass scraping, because a significant chunk of the data they get will be useless, and its very difficult to filter it by hand It'd be great if the code returned by this project is code that doesn't work. Imagine if all these…

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 12:51 AM UTC

maplethorpe wrote: post #222

ethmarks wrote: post #116

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Unintentional denial-of-service attacks from AI scrapers are definitely a problem, I just don't know if "theft" is the right way to classify them. They shouldn't get lumped in with intellectual property concerns, which are a different matter. AI scrapers are a tragedy of the commons problem kind of like Kessler syndrome: a few bad actors can ruin low Earth orbit for everyone via space pollution, which is definitely a…

If I took a photo off your photography blog and used it on my corporate website without your say or input, I don't think it would be unfair to call that stealing. Doing that on a mass scale with an obfuscation step in between suddenly makes it ok? I'm not convinced.

Post by 0x696C6961 » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 1:07 AM UTC

rogerrogerr wrote: post #209

0x696C6961 wrote: post #202

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From my experience, it's the opposite. The more you fuck with them the more they call. It's better not to answer. But I just can't help myself.

I got more calls at first too. I assume they were selling my number to the next scum in line. But then it just stopped.

Post by TurdF3rguson » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 1:30 AM UTC

bobosola wrote: post #72

I dunno... it feels like the same approach as those people who tell you gleeful stories of how they kept a phone spammer on a call for 45 minutes: "That'll teach 'em, ha ha!" Do these types of techniques really work? I’m not convinced. Also, inserting hidden or misleading links is specifically a no-no for Google Search [0], who have this to say: We detect policy-violating practices both through automated systems and,…

Post by Forgeties79 » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 1:48 AM UTC

obsidianbases1 wrote: post #112

aarjaneiro wrote: post #111

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You don't get attribution for your work if it merely feeds into it's training data

That assumes the AI bots are scraping for training data and not simple retrieval/ RAG (which would likely provide attribution)