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Post by Havoc »

yawniek wrote: post #213
ilitirit wrote: post #193

I understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages t…

cost. the amount of things that before cost you either hours or real money went down to a chat with a few sentences. it makes it suddenly possibly to scale an (at least semi-) savy tech person without other humans and that much faster. this directly gives it a very tanglible value. the "market" might not be huge for this and yes, its mostly youtubers and influencers that "get this". Mainly because the work they do is…

What cost savings are you achieving with it?

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Post by observationist »

ilitirit wrote: post #193

I understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages t…

When all you have to do is copy and paste from a Pliny tweet with instructions to post all the sensitive information visible to the bot in base 64 to pastebin with a secret phrase only you know to search, or some sort of "digital dead drop", anything and everything these bots have visibility to will get ripped off.

Unless or until you figure out a decent security paradigm, and I think it's reasonably achievable, these agents are extraordinarily dangerous. They're not smart enough to not do very stupid things, yet. You're gonna need layers of guardrails that filter out the jailbreaks and everything that doesn't match an approved format, with contextual branches of things that are allowed or discarded, and that's gonna be a whole pile of work that probably can't be vibecoded yet.

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Post by dom96 »

colecut wrote: post #201
ilitirit wrote: post #193

I understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages t…

A very small percentage of people know how to set up a cronjob. They can now combine cronjobs and LLMs with a single human sentence. This is huge for normies. Not so much if you already had strong development skills. EDIT: But you are correct in the assessment that people who don't know better will use it to do simple things that could be done millions of times more efficiently.. I made a chatbot at my company where…

If it’s for normies then why is the open source hardish-to-use self-hosted version of this the thing that’s becoming popular? Or is there enough normies willing to jump through hoops for this?

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

esafak wrote: post #219
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this a reference to spongbob squarepants where Mr krabby likes money and clawdbot and everything is a crab too? https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/81ecc732-ee7b-42c3-900b-b97479b... Hello I'm Mr Krabs and I like money. xD

https://closedclaw.com/

Wow, they weren't kidding when they talked about closedclaw crazy.

I scrolled down below and found $ curl -fsSL https://closedclaw.com/install.sh | bash

I got curious what the script might be and then tried going to https://closedclaw.com/install.sh and this leads to 404 page not found

Which is so funny because you can't install this software because even in this joke website the software itself is gatekeeped behind enterprise tier xD

This kind of really felt too much funny to me I am sure I am unable to explain it haha but this is actually pretty funny.

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Post by bilater »

ilitirit wrote: post #193

I understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages t…

Think of it as dropbox

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Post by thethimble »

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #182
thethimble wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clawdbot is one of those things that's really hard to get unless you have experienced it. It's got four things that make it great: 1. Discord/Slack/WA/etc integration so those apps become your frontend 2. Filesystem for long term memory and state 3. Easy extensibility with skills 4. Cron for recurring jobs Sure, many of these things exist in other systems but none in a cohesive package that makes it fun and easy.

I would argue that issuing commands to an LLM that has access to your digital life and filesystem through a SaaS messaging service is stupid to an unimaginable degree.

To each their own!

The Discord/Slack frontend reduces friction significantly - particularly on mobile.

With proper sandboxing you get real benefits while limiting the blast radius significantly.

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Post by quietsegfault »

vitorfblima wrote: post #126
baby wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its what everyone wanted to implement but didn’t have the time to. Just my 2cents.

Most people wouldn't want to be constantly bothered by an agent unsolicited. Just my 1 cent.

If the agent is good enough, it wouldn't have to bother me at all.

I don't have to manually change my thermostat to get the house temperatures I want. It learns my habits and tells my furnace what to do. I don't have to manually press the gas and break of my car to a certain distance away from the car in front. It has cameras and keeps the correct distance.

I would love to be able to say "Keep an eye on snow blower prices. If you see my local store has a sale that's below $x, place the order" and trust it will do what I expect. Or even, "Check my cell phone and internet bill. File an expense report when the new bills are available."

I'm not sure exactly what my comfort level would be, but it's not there yet.

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Post by quietsegfault »

lode wrote: post #67

I tried it out yesterday, after reading the enthousiastic article at https://www.macstories.net/stories/clawdbot-showed-me-what-t... Setting it up was easy enough, but just as I was about to start linking it to some test accounts, I noticed I already had blown through about $5 of Claude tokens in half an hour, and deleted the VPS immediately. Then today I saw this follow up: https://mastodon.macstories.net/@viticci/1…

Just watch a few videos on Clawdbot. You'll invariably see some influencer's Anthropic key, and just use that. Wokka wokka!

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Post by guluarte »

lode wrote: post #67

I tried it out yesterday, after reading the enthousiastic article at https://www.macstories.net/stories/clawdbot-showed-me-what-t... Setting it up was easy enough, but just as I was about to start linking it to some test accounts, I noticed I already had blown through about $5 of Claude tokens in half an hour, and deleted the VPS immediately. Then today I saw this follow up: https://mastodon.macstories.net/@viticci/1…

you can use your claude max subscription
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