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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

^this is good, legit feedback for why this product/feature isn't good. It's not just "MSFT BAD!". Thanks for sharing.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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My main reasons for using Windows right now are: - Davinci Resolve - Adobe suite - AutoHotkey scripts, lots of them - Microsoft Office, mainly PowerPoint, Excel and Word for creating and interacting with other companies' docs. Libre/OpenOffice mangled them/were missing features I depend on - Issues with my laptop's Nvidia card (screen tearing etc.) last time I tried to switch, and rabbit holes that I don't have time…

Linux for me is all about customization and control, particularly of hardware, which you'd usually do for optimization (performance, workflow, latency, stability), which is fun if you care about optimization and efficiency, but for "good enough/I'm used to it/I'm a satisfied paying customer" I suppose there's no reason to investigate or risk. The market has poured loads of capital into satisfying PC multimedia use-ca…

I hear that. I enjoy that kind of tinkering; I just have too much on my plate with my business to go as deep into it as I used to. But I'm still interested in Linux, if only because it's a much-needed third option. I've been on and off it as a daily driver over the years.

I'm guessing others here who are primarily on Windows can relate to this. We've been disappointed with what Apple and Microsoft are doing, and we want, not necessarily more customization of our OS, just less interference.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Hope the PM in charge with the scammy copy designed to trick people into turning this on is happy with the boost in free users falling for it. My dad turned it on not knowing what it meant and it completely messed up his workflows and now I have to figure out how to safely disable it and move his files back. I will remember Microsoft causing this problem for him every time I think of or get asked if someone should us…

HN seems to think PMs have a lot more power at Microsoft or large corps than they actually do. I assure you, a bunch of this stuff just comes top down because some VP's million dollar bonus rides on it.

The mandate to implement these kind of pop-ups doesn't come from above.

The mandate to identify ways to increase profit comes from above, and it is the PMs (through marketing/research/developers) that come up with ways to satisfy these requirements.

And failure to meet these requirements means a bad review and a chance of being laid off.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Having run Linux every day, I can say we’re in trouble if that is the reliable option :) (Agree that Liquid Glass is miserable, though.)

I've faced many fewer hiccups on CachyOS/Arch in the past few months than on Windows. In the first month of owning this hardware, I had an unexplained BSOD that actually bricked my whole Win11 install. And this is pretty recent/funky 2-in-1 hardware, not an old ThinkPad I've cherry-picked for good Linux support. This is an important moment for free software; the big platforms are finally cinching down on users hard e…

Yep, I dual boot Linux Mint & Windows 11 and only bother with the latter when I need MS Teams, or some other proprietary software that tends to be more reliable on Windows. In terms of performance and user experience Mint wins easily.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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I wish more software companies had a core value of “every user created bit is sacred.” Storage is cheap enough that this attitude is possible. But I guess keeping all of your designers aware of it across thousands of teams is too hard.

As usual, user are not making them paying the price for being badly treated. Software companies do this because they can get away with it, that's it. Even on HN many people can't be arse to use Firefox, how could we expect anyone to avoid giants like Microsoft?

Sadly Firefox has been utter garbage for me the last few months, routinely hangs for me on 3 different machines across two different OSes.

Running out of options these days

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

Config files should go elsewhere, but save files seem like the should definitely go in mydocs.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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May I suggest you give fedora a go? It still feels like the most mature distro out there, but I can be biased

TBH if i decide to change OS again, i'll probably go with Gentoo because AFAIK it provides means to have custom patches for packages and i'd like to do things like, e.g., add some stuff in the file dialog for Gtk3. Though i'm not sure this is something most people would care about, so i didn't mention it (also i only have a vague idea that this is possible, i haven't actually tried it in practice).

I've been using Gentoo as my primary OS since 2007, along with gnome2 (now mate) as the desktop environment with the ancient compiz for fancy effects like wobbling windows and a desktop cube. Updates come pretty quickly. It's so nice having rolling releases, dist upgrades for other distros make me nervous and I've lost time to them -- and occasionally other software that certain distros decided to throw you into a curses terminal UI for configuration (or just mysteriously break and fail to install the package if you were using the desktop GUI). The custom patches thing is really nice and fairly straightforward. When you install a package its tarball gets saved in /var/cache/distfiles/ so you can just extract your package with the right version to a temp dir to work on. If you want to patch the package foo/bar you create a diff file /etc/portage/patches/foo/bar/patch-name (git format-patch can help, you just take the diff --git parts) and it gets auto-applied next time you build the package (or if it can't apply the diff, fails and tells you). I don't use this as often as I could, I only have a few patches at the moment (https://github.com/Jach/patches -- there's been a couple minor updates I should push), but it's pretty convenient to fix minor annoyances, take tiny fixes from upstream until they're fully released, or add custom features/text where you want.

With overlays to get packages outside of the core distro tree, a lot of software is just available, and even when it's not, you usually have the build tools or can easily install them so building whatever else from source isn't an obstacle. (I do sometimes have to use debian/ubuntu/mint (mint is on my travel laptop that I only use when traveling) and it still gets me sometimes having to make sure build-essential and various -dev packages are installed to do anything.) One downside is that your glibc will likely be newer than a lot of other systems out there, so that creates obstacles to shipping binaries around. You can also create your own packages in an overlay fairly easily as well, or keep some old ones around that have lost their maintainers and get removed from the tree.

There's also a somewhat annoying 'license' system (adding license names you accept to a configuration file) but with it the tooling can automatically fetch certain things for downloading (e.g. nvidia driver blobs) that some companies want people to get manually so they can harvest your data/force you to accept some EULA. I'm now remembering that 16 or 17 years ago, the last time I tried Fedora, I was testing it out by plugging in a flash drive (yay it auto mounted) but it failed to play an MP3 file and suggested I pay someone money to install codecs. It's left a sour impression on Fedora ever since, not to mention my lingering question why anyone would want a Red Hat derivative outside of a locked down office (and even then at my old BigCo job we devs got to use Ubuntu).

For casual use I still think Mint is probably the best distro at the moment. I tend to recommend the mate desktop environment since it's what I like and am used to but it's a poor distro if you can't easily install any DE of choice on it.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Back when I was using Windows, I had enabled this feature too (before I knew much about privacy) and when I finally decided to get rid of it, I remember consistently failing to disable OneDrive. I would log out, uninstall the app and then try to move my Desktop folder out of "OneDrive" in my home directory and next boot I'd have 2 folders again (with the "OneDrive" one being used, of course). I ended up reinstalling for another reason, but that finally fixed the problem.

I deleted everything from my OneDrive today and got especially mad that the Android app shows a download icon in folder details yet it's disabled. There's absolutely no way to get your files through there. Had to log in on the web just to get a ZIP of everything (it's surprising that's still possible). As soon as I move off Outlook I'm out of this ecosystem.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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I can sympathize a little with Microsoft here. MS got totally angry and fed up with what was happening. I'm not sure how many people really understand how bad ransomware was getting. Microsoft just finally said enough is enough and started implementing counter-measures. Being more forceful about getting people to backup their files is one of them.

Yes, it's annoying, and many might say what's the big deal? People's harddrives used to die all the time and they would still lose data. Why suddenly because it's ransomware, is it a bigger deal? I think it just adds a moral dimension to it that wasn't as acute before.

MS took the risk to be a little bit of an asshole as a way to counter even bigger assholes.

That's only really acceptable if they can hold up their end of the deal and maintain absolute privacy and security for that data without trying to analyze it and apply Minority Report pre-crime to everything.

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