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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by creato »

GeekyBear wrote: post #65
creato wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MacOS is just as aggressive about turning on icloud as windows is with it's crap.

When Apple forces users to use an online account to access their local Mac, and disables their OS unless they turn on iCloud on their Mac -- then you can claim equivalence between them.

I literally just got my first Mac computer a few months ago. I tried to set it up as a local account with no online account. I could not.

Maybe it is possible and I just missed it. But either they don't allow it, or they have enough dark pattern bullshit to trick me, either way, it's the same as windows to me.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by user____name »

icameron wrote: post #42

OP doesn’t say why they are against free cloud backup, and it doesn’t matter, but (like everything else in Windows) there’s a registry setting you could change to disable the notification. I think it is ` HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Notifications\ Settings\Microsoft.SkyDrive.Desktop\Enabled = 0 (DWORD) ` https://www.urtech.ca/2018/03/solved-gpos-to-disable-notific...

I get frequent requests from like 4 vendors to get ""free"" cloud backup.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by bigyabai »

delusional wrote: post #79
reddalo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, nowadays Linux seems like the only reliable solution. Even macOS, with the latest "liquid glass" update, feels like a toy for kids. I just wish the Affinity suite would be available for Linux too.

> feels like a toy for kids. I wish unserious complaining like this wasn't mixed with actual technical criticism of software.

It is very serious. I love the way Catalina and Mojave looks; dark mode or light mode, it just screams "professional" at the top of it's lungs.

Big Sur is, somehow, the exact opposite. Corners are rounded off as if they could hurt someone, and margins are padded more than a cell in solitary confinement. Space is wasted everywhere. It's Fischer-Price design philosophy and I'm hardly the only one to point it out.

In a side-by-side, so much screen real estate gets wasted that it's genuinely disgusting: https://www.andrewdenty.com/blog/assets/img/macos-new-ui/fin...

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by nomilk »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #48

Hope the PM in charge with the scammy copy designed to trick people into turning this on is happy with the boost in free users falling for it. My dad turned it on not knowing what it meant and it completely messed up his workflows and now I have to figure out how to safely disable it and move his files back. I will remember Microsoft causing this problem for him every time I think of or get asked if someone should us…

This work is 10x more effort than it sounds too due to how severely mistakes are penalised (i.e. unrecoverable files), necessitating extreme caution.

When uploading 10k photos from macOS to Google Cloud using the Google Cloud macOS app, it said syncing had completed about 2 hours earlier than my back-of-the-envelope calculations predicted. "Great", I thought, but was still a bit suspicious, so just in case, before deleting the local copy, I closed the Google Drive app and reopened it, and it immediately started syncing - there were 2k photos/videos to go (!!). That's how insanely easily it could be to lose precious memories due to a tiniest bug in cloud software.

Surgical precision and extreme thoroughness are the only ways to approach these seemingly simple operations of moving files from one computer to another.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by lambdaone »

hedora wrote: post #4

This stuff is increasingly normalized across platforms. I'd say "vote with your wallet", but when all the tech platforms are doing it, there's not much choice. PCs / laptops are probably the last hold out: Just switch to Linux (but be careful which distro you pick) or MacOS (for now). The political pendulum is going to swing far left in the US given the disasters that are playing out in DC. Hopefully this sort of cra…

Apple had a go at doing this with iCloud, but clearly there was enough consumer pushback (a friend lost all their files after cancelling iCloud, thinking it was a backup service, not realising it deleted the original copies on their machine) that they stopped the enshittification there.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by jaykru »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #59
reddalo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, nowadays Linux seems like the only reliable solution. Even macOS, with the latest "liquid glass" update, feels like a toy for kids. I just wish the Affinity suite would be available for Linux too.

Having run Linux every day, I can say we’re in trouble if that is the reliable option :) (Agree that Liquid Glass is miserable, though.)

I've faced many fewer hiccups on CachyOS/Arch in the past few months than on Windows. In the first month of owning this hardware, I had an unexplained BSOD that actually bricked my whole Win11 install. And this is pretty recent/funky 2-in-1 hardware, not an old ThinkPad I've cherry-picked for good Linux support. This is an important moment for free software; the big platforms are finally cinching down on users hard enough that we have a shot at convincing regular people to join us. Please don't blow it with vague complaints.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by nolist_policy »

Podrod wrote: post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

It's interesting how ChromeOS respects your choices more than Windows here.

There is a setting to disable Google Drive and it just works. It won't auto-enable, no popups or nags or anything. Even Google Docs/Workspace falls back to a trimmed down offline version.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by shmerl »

dismalaf wrote: post #72
j1elo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO Linux Mint keeps being the strongest option to recommend when the intention is a clean transition with the least amount of fiddling. It just works, it is reliable, and it doesn't play games with changes of basic technologies that can only cause confusion (e.g. none of the Ubuntu shenanigans like their confusing desktop or their non-Debian packaging)

Linux Mint is terrible. Horribly outdated software, how are they still on X11? Both their DEs are forks which introduces problems... Like, in regular Gnome/KDE land, you have Wayland which is a huge improvement over X11, HDR works, fractional scaling works... None of that works on Mint.

Not sure why you are downvoted, what you said is true. Mint has some WIP to support Wayland in Cinnamon, but it's way behind other DEs and I wouldn't recommend using it.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by aboringusername »

I've often wondered if there is a way you can be malicious with this, a way of 'beating' them at their own game.

1: Make random files full of absolute garbage data

2: Upload 5GB of garbage data, delete (free limit capacity)

3: Repeat 1 and 2, forever, 24/7.

At 10mbps it would take 68.3 minutes, at 50mbps it would take 13.7 minutes to upload 5gb.

At 10mbps you could upload 5gb 7665 times, at 50mbps 38,325 times a year.

that works out to 38,325gb/10mbps and 191,625 GB at 50mbps per year

So yeah, if Microsoft wants to allow a user to upload 10's of thousands of completely worthless useless bytes of data and delete and reupload why not?

Anyone care to think how many hard drives you could destroy with the constant writing? And you could also automate downloads too, so they have to deal with reads.

Let's see how long they want your 'data' for then ey?

Consider it a digital form of 'fly tipping' and it's completely free, legal and they have begged you to do it!

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by bee_rider »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #59
reddalo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, nowadays Linux seems like the only reliable solution. Even macOS, with the latest "liquid glass" update, feels like a toy for kids. I just wish the Affinity suite would be available for Linux too.

Having run Linux every day, I can say we’re in trouble if that is the reliable option :) (Agree that Liquid Glass is miserable, though.)

The Open Source ecosystem is a bit weird in that your system can be as reliable or not as you want, depending on what projects you follow. It really truly is a mixed bag in the sense that you can actually have a solid setup if you are happy with it being boring.
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