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Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by davmre »

appreciatorBus wrote: post #204
neilv wrote: post #193

Let's say that some people are opposed to the city's enforcement of parking rules against them (people who don't want parking tickets for overstaying in a spot, nor for parking somewhere they aren't supposed to). Let's also say that some other people support the enforcement against that first group (e.g., small brick&mortar businesses, and people who want more parking available for quick errands). If the Opposed grou…

Just charge market rates for land. Overstaying (aka overconsumption) is mostly just a predictable consequence of selling something valuable at far below what its value.

Even if you charge $10/hr, or whatever the market rate would be for street parking spots, you still need an enforcement mechanism to prevent people overstaying.

In general, the idea of a "market rate" for any given property depends fundamentally on a system of property rights actually being enforced.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by obventio56 »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #214
obventio56 wrote: post #211

I would pay ~$10/month for email alerts when an officer is within a geofence of my car.

Then someone will know where your car is at all times, and probably who you are... and that is monetizable (not from you).

If there is someone who wants this data, I am happy to sell... no need for a middle man.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by galaxy_gas »

hundchenkatze wrote: post #219
barbazoo wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd detail about the page, on the left it says "Audio feed courtesy of Orchestra" but the link goes to some dystopian panopticon kinda surveillance app.

I think they're being cheeky. I assume Orchestra is the dystopian company providing the "ShotSpotter" service to SF, and bop spotter is piggy backing on the api.

They are separate dystopian that have public video and audio feed of SF on front page 4K

Shotspotter not related co.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by nycdatasci »

How are you handling the auth token/captcha on the website? I'm not a legal expert, but my impression is that automated solving of captchas during a scrape carries higher risk. That said, amazing project!

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

throwaway93626 wrote: post #72
jakelazaroff wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The loserboard I'd be interested in is which license plates consistently receive the most tickets.

I'd guess the top spots are just super wealthy people who figure that at their "hourly rate", paying for parking is basically more costly than just eating the tickets. Like if someone's time is worth $10k+/hour, the parking tickets are basically just premium parking fees that are still "cheaper" than spending even a minute dealing with payment... Let your assistant pay whatever tickets you get in the mail instead.

This is the insight behind demand-driven parking fees. The super wealthy folks who can pay an infinite amount for the spot won't matter how much the spot costs, they'll just pay the fee.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by spankalee »

sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #103
lawlessone wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Wonders why shelves are empty when delivery drivers can't park their trucks anywhere uh don't big shops usually have truck ports?

Maybe he had to use the restroom in an emergency? I'd prefer people delivering my goods and handling my food park illegally in a bike lane and use a restroom like a civilized person rather than being forced to go in a Gatorade bottle before handing me my sandwich.

> Wonders why shelves are empty when delivery drivers can't park their trucks anywhere

What shelves are empty? Touch grass.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

bahmboo wrote: post #197
scottbez1 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In commercial loading zones! We've allocated the color yellow for this in SF. If commercial drivers petitioned SFMTA to convert more private parking spaces into commercial zones I'd be signing petitions and backing them in their goal 100% of the way. But generally I've found that commercial drivers would rather just violate the law and endanger others rather than engaging in activism for better infrastructure on our…

I can't speak for SF I'm in Seattle. I don't think it is incumbent on delivery drivers to do activism for their employers. That's my opinion. And I still don't understand why people don't see that the delivery driver on foot is a vulnerable user of the roads and sidewalks. We aren't perfect but we are there for the public not because we like it. Someone else mentioned "externalizing" the cost of parking via citations…

UPS drivers don't need to write their congressperson. UPS the company can just get their lobbyists to pressure city officials to convert more street parking spaces to commercial only spaces.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by thaumasiotes »

ihaveajob wrote: post #201
jonny_eh wrote: post #95

Probably a good time to tell people that SF operates a "Text Before Tow Program" where you can get a warning that you're about to get towed: https://www.sfmta.com/text-tow-program

This is fantastic. It really signals that the point is not to get money from you, but to free up the parking spot.

They also ticket without towing, where the point is entirely to get money from you.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by spankalee »

potato3732842 wrote: post #54
spankalee wrote: post #43

It would be great to see more automatic payment and enforcement. It's great that buses can issue tickets for blocking bus lanes, but I would absolutely love for their to be more automatic enforcement of blocking bike lanes and meter violations. I'm not in SF a lot these days, but I have noticed some particularly fancy parking meters that at least have tap-to-pay and might have more. Instead of a ticket, you should ju…

You only love it because you have some perverted dream of 100% enforcement of whatever your rules are. In reality automated enforcement would cause an uproar and the rules would be changed to accommodate the status quo.

I would much, much rather have the rules changed to reflect what we actually want them to be than to have bad rules that we only tolerate because we don't enforce them.

But on that note, I absolutely do think that people should pay to store their private property on public land, and that they shouldn't block bus lanes, bike lanes or cross walks, or run red lights, so I fully support those rules and automated enforcement of them.

Why do you think those rules are bad?

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