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Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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They're also developing VR glasses. The company that is destroying children's mental health with phone addiction is developing VR glasses. I guess nobody cares

> nobody cares Some people do but other people don't elect them.

>Some people do but other people don't elect them.

So, the other people don't care.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless I’m remembering wrong, posting a public message on someone else’s profile was posting on their wall. Or was it called something else before it was somebody’s wall?

It didn't have a name. It wasn't really a "feature." You just went and posted on their "page" I guess I would call it. The change to being able to post things on your own page and expecting other people to come to your page and read them (because, again, no Feed) wasn't received well at first. Keep in mind, smartphones didn't exist yet, and the first ones didn't have selfie cameras even once they did. And the cameras…

I joined Thefacebook in 2005. The place on your page where posts from other people appeared was called the “wall” then.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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I miss the old days when Facebook was simply a fun way to reconnect with friend and family who lived far away. Unfortunately, those days are gone. It feels like an over engineered attention-hogging system that collects a large amount of data and risks people's mental health along the way.

I have similar feelings. In the early days, Facebook was more like a cozy corner of the Internet, where you could see the latest news from your high school classmates and the dinner photos posted by distant relatives. It was very relaxing. Now when I open the app, I feel like I am being manipulated by the algorithm, constantly pushing you to click and watch things, and I can't stop. It has become smarter, but also more indifferent.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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post #16

I miss the old days when Facebook was simply a fun way to reconnect with friend and family who lived far away. Unfortunately, those days are gone. It feels like an over engineered attention-hogging system that collects a large amount of data and risks people's mental health along the way.

I am building one with a chronological feed and no public profiles. You need to already know someone to find them here. Check out the waitlist! https://waitlist-tx.pages.dev/ Edit: Here are some rough layout designs https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uLwnXDdUsC9hMZBa1ysR... It's intentionally simple

> PostX is a private, no-clout, no-AI social network for close friends

What can you possibly offer in this space that can not be done with a messaging group on WhatsApp/Signal/Matrix/XMPP ?

   - They are invite only
   - They are not public
   - People share updates in chronological order

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do.

I actually attempted to create a Facebook account recently to be able to access Facebook Marketplace. During sign-up, I was asked to upload a video selfie of myself to confirm I'm a real person.

Never did a 180 so fast in my life.

I guess I simply won't communicate with anyone selling anything there, even if it's the best deal possible or not available anywhere else

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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It's also a huge danger as the system FB uses to tag and categorize photos is clearly flawed. example: Meta took a business page I ran that had over 150K followers offline because of a photo that violated their 'strict anti-pornography' etc etc policies. The picture was of a planet - Saturn - and it took weeks of the most god-awful to and fro with (mostly) bots to get them to revoke the ban - their argument was that…

One reads completely ridiculous cases like the one you describe, and shakes their head at those who preach the notion of creating ever more thickets of AI "powered" bots as a prima facie interface for our social services, customer support and other institutional interaction needs. Idiocies like this are why AI should absolutely never (at least at any present level of technology) be an inescapable means of filtering h…

Nice that you're mentioning it. I've seen this piece today from Bloomberg, "Call Center Workers Are Tired of Being Mistaken for AI."

https://archive.ph/rB2Rg

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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All you have to do is take an initial cost hit where you have multiple support staff review a case as a calibration phase and generate cohorts of say 3 reviews where 2 have the desired denial rate and 1 doesn't. Determine the performance of each cohort by how much in agreement they are and then rotate out whose in training over time and you'll achieve a target denial rate. There will always be people who "try to do t…

I am not disagreeing, and I am not arguing for AI. I am just saying that the perverse incentives already exist and that in this case AI-assisted evaluation (which defers to a human when uncertain) is not going to make it any better, but it is not going to make it any worse.

Actually it may, even if only slightly. Because now as the GP says, the humans know the only cases they're going to get are the ones the AI suspects are not worthy. They will look more skeptically.

I totally agree that the injustices at play here are already long baked in and this is not the harbinger of doom, medical billing already sucks immense amounts of ass and this isn't changing it much? But it is changing it and worse, it's infusing the credibility of automation, even in a small way, into a system. "Our decisions are better because a computer made them" which doesn't deal at all with how we don't fully understand how these systems work or what their reasoning is for any particular claim.

Insofar as we must have profit-generating investment funds masquerading as healthcare providers, I don't think it's asking a ton that they be made to continue employing people to handle claims, and customer service for that matter. They're already some of the most profitable corporations on the planet, are costs really needing cutting here?

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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post #16

I miss the old days when Facebook was simply a fun way to reconnect with friend and family who lived far away. Unfortunately, those days are gone. It feels like an over engineered attention-hogging system that collects a large amount of data and risks people's mental health along the way.

Rose-tinted glasses. Here's what Mark Zuckerberg had to say about his own platform in 2004:

> Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

> Zuck: Just ask.

> Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

> [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

> Zuck: People just submitted it.

> Zuck: I don't know why.

> Zuck: They "trust me"

> Zuck: Dumb fucks

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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In context, those sound like things they’re going to do for you . People are not going to understand this as “we’re going to use your stuff for our own purposes unrelated to the services you get.” Here’s the thing. Even if we grant your idea that maybe this is more understandable, why would that be reasonable? Facebook employs a lot of very smart people and has enormous resources. I’m confident they could come up wit…

According to the company spokesperson quoted by TechCrunch, they aren’t using the photos to train models, which is probably why they didn’t put that in the dialog.

Spokesperson says they’re not, legally binding terms say they’re allowed to. At the very least you are giving them permission without it being clearly described up front, even if they might not be using that permission at this moment.
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