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Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by hoppp »

callamdelaney wrote: post #219
hoppp wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How? Keyloggers and spying? What if the parents hate gays but their kid is in the closet seeking help? Having uncontrolled access to information about sex and sexuality is a blessing not a curse. It saves lives. And I bet its much better having kids at home jacking off to porn than them having sex with girls early. Urges are normal, porn is good.

Weird that I can’t downvote this unhinged response. ‘Porn is good’.

I don't get anti porn mentality.

Should horny teenagers have sex instead?

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by Ancapistani »

AlexeyBelov wrote: post #216
Ancapistani wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a good point. That said, this is exactly the conversations my wife and I have with our kids. In life, there are times when you voluntarily place yourself under someone’s authority. There are other times when you’re subject to their power, the source of which is irrelevant is it is outside your control. We’re unschooling anarchists, so our conversations are a bit wild at times :). OTOH, my 16- and 11-year-olds…

> We’re unschooling anarchists I thought you're supposed to grow out of this phase before you have kids.

I’ll let you know if my 16-year-old does. She’s enrolled in college for the fall.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by Ancapistani »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #217
Ancapistani wrote: post #212

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> "No guns until you're 16" works fine. You don't need to "take the mystery away". This is what leads to stories about kids who make their way into their parents’ locked storage and hurt themselves or others. “The mystery” is what leads kids to investigate things on their own. Let them know they can just ask. If they do ask, explain what you’re doing as you clear it. Strictly enforce the four rules. Let them disassem…

> This is what leads to stories about kids who make their way into their parents’ locked storage and hurt themselves or others. > “The mystery” is what leads kids to investigate things on their own. Do you have evidence that learning gun safety without use doesn't do enough here? I'm not convinced there's all that much mystery. Even if talk doesn't do enough, I bet letting your kids use guns once would do more than e…

FWIW, in practice they’ve asked maybe twice, ever.

We are a family that likes guns, but that’s not what I’m advocating. Familiarity and an emphasis on safety are what I’m talking about.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Ancapistani wrote: post #223
Dylan16807 wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is what leads to stories about kids who make their way into their parents’ locked storage and hurt themselves or others. > “The mystery” is what leads kids to investigate things on their own. Do you have evidence that learning gun safety without use doesn't do enough here? I'm not convinced there's all that much mystery. Even if talk doesn't do enough, I bet letting your kids use guns once would do more than e…

FWIW, in practice they’ve asked maybe twice, ever. We are a family that likes guns, but that’s not what I’m advocating. Familiarity and an emphasis on safety are what I’m talking about.

Okay, I think "use guns once or twice with them" is a very reasonable idea for gun safety.

And it ends up being extremely different from internet safety. It's much much harder to teach and it's not practical to supervise the full learning process.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by southernplaces7 »

david-gpu wrote: post #49
macintux wrote: post #25

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Porn is considered a highly private activity for many reasons: societal disapproval, religious prohibitions...heck in some countries, watching gay porn is potentially a death sentence.

I get wanting to keep illegal activities unknown to the authorities, so I'll concede that. But in the context of this thread, where a company was threatening to do this in a developed democratic country, that is not an issue, is it? Societal disapproval can be divided between people you interact with and strangers. Why would anybody what strangers think of them, particularly when those strangers would have to been ru…

>But in the context of this thread, where a company was threatening to do this in a developed democratic country, that is not an issue, is it?

Along with some other parts of your comment, I can only ask, are you really that naive? Governments can change, laws can change, societies can become more sinister, along with their governing institutions. Look no further than the United States right now for something of a haphazard example, but many others from history and the modern world abound.

It's not about a given context not being risky, it's about a fundamental right to have one's own private business respected firmly, so long as it doesn't materially or physically harm others, being entrenched enough that it's hard to remove even when the state and society go bad.

The same goes for your last comment: Defending one's privacy on nothing more than how supposedly unlikely it is that others would be interested in your personal habits is a downright stupidly bad idea, and yes, it can easily turn into a big deal if something changes.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by dminik »

david-gpu wrote: post #88
dminik wrote: post #67

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Would you be willing to share your full name and your porn browsing habits? Here, to everyone reading this thread?

You are making the same argument as somebody else on this thread, as if this was some sort of a gotcha. I don't go around talking about my porn watching habits for the simple reason that I am sufficiently attuned to social customs to understand that nobody has any interest in them. You can't be shamed for something you are not ashamed of. If a porn provider made them public for whatever reason, it would not bother me…

I mean, that's a whole lot of words and no history.

You're right that it is a gotcha. Especially after you use line like

> Why would anybody what strangers think of them

Well, I for one am interested in your porn browsing history and looking around I'm certainly not the only one. So your excuse doesn't really fly for me either.

I find it interesting that for as much you claim to not care about this, and how unashamed you are, you're also not very willing to post it.

Now, I don't blame you for that. But, it's a bit hypocritical.

You're saying that actually all is fine and that other people shouldn't be afraid of having their porn history exposed. But you're awfully private with your own.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by ghusto »

hoppp wrote: post #221
callamdelaney wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird that I can’t downvote this unhinged response. ‘Porn is good’.

I don't get anti porn mentality. Should horny teenagers have sex instead?

As an alternative to porn? Yes.

Porn has a very high chance of messing you up psychologically, and the younger you are, the more likely it is. Sex less so, even at a young age.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by dragonwriter »

AlexeyBelov wrote: post #216
Ancapistani wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a good point. That said, this is exactly the conversations my wife and I have with our kids. In life, there are times when you voluntarily place yourself under someone’s authority. There are other times when you’re subject to their power, the source of which is irrelevant is it is outside your control. We’re unschooling anarchists, so our conversations are a bit wild at times :). OTOH, my 16- and 11-year-olds…

> We’re unschooling anarchists I thought you're supposed to grow out of this phase before you have kids.

No, that's literally propaganda from people who want you not to grow out of being passive sheep for capitalism.
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