Just got a tweet from @macromates, they say they'll still charge for binaries
Textmate2 Goes Open Source
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Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
ST2 is native enough for me and cross-platform should be on the list of every programmer's requirements for a text editor. I use Vim on OS X right now and I like it but used ST2 just yesterday (odd timing). I agree with others that it is basically the TM2 we were waiting for.
> ST2 is native enough for me and cross-platform should be on the list of every programmer's requirements for a text editor. I used to feel this way. I worked really hard to make all my configs and editors act the same across OS X and a few unix platforms. Then one day I woke up and decided I just wanted to work with the best editor on the best platform. (Both personal, subjective opinions, of course.) And that choic…
> My point is that I need to be philosophically aligned with my editor's developer.
This is taking things a bit too far, I think. If you're a one platform kind of person the most important thing should be "How well does it work on (my platform)?".
Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source
#223I created a binary from the current source, if anyone is interested:
https://github.com/downloads/albertz/textmate/TextMate-2012-...
Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source
#224If we are completely honest, Textmate was always a sub-par editor. No Vim or Emacs style brilliantness, no BBEdit style tons of features and mature engine, no IntelliJ like, er, intelligence, no ST2 comprehensiveness, etc etc. Plus, the Textmate 1.x text engine was probably a mess too -- I remember the very first versions being laggy (and that's coming from someone who doesn't find even Eclipse laggy). That he couldn…
> I don't think Textmate deserved all that success --it should have happened to a better editor. This doesn't make much sense. You say it appeared at the right time and was pretty and native on OS X. What better editors deserved the success it had that were available when TextMate was popular? Which editors were available on OS X that weren't giant IDEs or VIM and Emacs style editors that have a ridiculously steep le…
Two points worth mentioning. Emacs 2.4 comes with many features by default that shrink the learning curve.
And most importantly, check out Technomancy's emacs starter kit. It even comes with a package that lets Textmate users keep using their familiar keyboard shortcuts if they want.
Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
OK, so I've been looking through the code and from what I see I suspect a big reason for the rewrite was to move huge chunks into platform-independent C++ for an ultimate Win32/Linux/Mac trifecta release (maybe for TM3). If so, this would explain why things got so bogged down. The actual layout/folding code, for example, is in C++. When it needs to draw it calls Core Graphics C functions. A lot of the other things li…
Would it be easier to rewrite it for one single cross-platform backend, like Qt, than maintain a mix of platform-specific code?
I think one of the appeals of TM1 was that it WAS a native Mac app and felt like one. Qt apps never 'feel' completely native, so if you went down that path you'd end up with an awkward, substandard, non-native text editor and might as well be using Sublime Text.
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
I paid for Textmate too, for Textmate I. That being said, I'm sad that the development of Textmate has come to an end. Switching to another editor sooner or later won't be easy.
Switch to http://www.sublimetext.com/ , It will be the best decision you ever made. Its what textmate 2 should have been
How can you be sure Sublime won't go the same way TextMate went? Personally, I'll go with Aquamacs.
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think one person would make a case study. Whatever his reason is, it would be a very specific personal reason. A case study of this will be just be like profiling a patient in a lab.
> I don't think one person would make a case study Actually, that is the definition of a case study.
32 points?! I have far better comments with way less karma. This, for example, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4358718
Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source
#228Found a build from today.
Not sure why this is supposedly so much better than ST2. I've got a Go(lang) bundle installed and a theme that I prefer over my current ST2 theme, but I like the file browser, tabs and menu layout better in ST2.
Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't think Textmate deserved all that success --it should have happened to a better editor. This doesn't make much sense. You say it appeared at the right time and was pretty and native on OS X. What better editors deserved the success it had that were available when TextMate was popular? Which editors were available on OS X that weren't giant IDEs or VIM and Emacs style editors that have a ridiculously steep le…
The early and enthusiastic support of DHH / the Rails community had a lot to do with the initial success of TextMate. Whether this was 'deserved' is too subjective to be worth debating. It happened, and TextMate took off as a result.
Community effects can never bring a poor technology to the top. They can keep a great technology from overtaking a good technology, though. But TextMate's success was not only from the community support, but also from its capabilities. Snippets were one of its cool features, for example, that helped it gain success.
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#230Anyone else keen to add vim keybindings?
...anyone?