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Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#221
Most people won't want to carry multiple devices, and I doubt people will sacrifice their existing phone.

When Apple implement something remotely similar to this into iOS (WWDC this year, anyone?), it will likely render products like this obsolete.

Honourable mention, Teenage Engineering crushing it with the hardware, as usual.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#223
It’s a really interesting product that I’m not going to buy!

Declarative interfaces that allow you to describe what you want and use agents to go out to different services and chain them together is a cool idea:

I don’t want to spend time using dozens of different apps with different (often poorly designed) interfaces.

Having a push to talk hardware button instead seems less clunky than a “hey siri” key phrase (I use Siri dozens of times a day but unfortunately ‘raise to talk’ feature on Apple Watch has never worked well for me).

I’m curious how their LAM works with interfaces being updated- if they need to retrain with UI updates or if it’s flexible enough to be stable with UI changes and new features etc.

I currently use ChatGTP sessions to dive into various topics I’m interested in, and explore ideas- I do like the idea of dedicated hardware that would allow this, but it’s something I imagine I’d keep on the coffee table at home, I don’t want to get a dedicated SIM and data connection or carry around another device.

They’ve raised $30M and I wish them well, I hope they survive and have me as a customer in the future.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#224

Can someone who has watched the keynote tell me what this device is for?

It's a client device to an LLM that can use software on your behalf, presumably running on Android and Chrome/Linux VMs that they host. You log in to their web portal, authenticate various apps as you would on your own phone, and then the LLM can do everything you can do. You can also train it to do specific tasks.

When you press the button on the side, you speak as you would type to ChatGPT, but now the LLM can do arbitrary things as you.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Completely agree with you along with a single caveat.

I do think some of the UX of these devices offer something your mobile phone doesn't but in the name of testing the market, it would make more sense for them to build devices that are currently accessories to your phone, see what use case is getting traction and if a self contained device is necessary.

What I find surprising about these devices is that not only am I paying a lot for the device, presumably because they over-built on software so they could have a stand-along experience, but I also have to have a 2nd SIM for it?

Is everyone paying $50/month for each mobile connection?

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#227

It's a striking condemnation of the current state of things that my $1K+ mobile phone does not do anything close to what's in this demo. I would pay $200 just to have a voice assistant that isn't totally incapable of playing songs requested like "Play SONG_TITLE from ALBUM_TITLE". As an example, yesterday my daughter asked for a song from Snow White. EDITED FOR CORRECTNESS (originally I said I asked for Heigh Ho from…

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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s $199. At that price it could be a viable cool toy like product to have in addition to your normal smartphone.

That's why I just ordered one. I don't know how it'll turn out, but for the price I'm willing to have a beautiful little fidget toy to play with.

My thoughts exactly. I'm willing to give it a try because it's exactly how I imagined a companion device for intelligent note taking. Given that it's a collaboration with TE, I trust the build quality. My only concerns rest in the lack of a subscription given the cloud reliance on the OS, and as I'm sure many others feel, security with a fledgling device and it's interactions as an agent of you is definitely an important consideration.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#229

As usual with Teenage Engineering, I love the hardware design, but this aspect of the software is a letdown: > rabbit OS operates apps on our secured cloud, so you don’t have to. Log into the apps you’d like rabbit to use on your system through the rabbit hole to relay control. You only need to do this once per app. So things don't run on the device, but on the cloud. Unfortunate.

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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#230

I'm not talking to computers still. It's a border I just can't cross. Like I'd literally rather stop and type on my car display than try to voice in a destination. And I'd if I'm cooking and my hands are greasy wash my hands and pick up my phone and tap in a timer for 5 minutes rather than try some "set timer for 5 minutes" voice command. Not sure I ever will start talking to computers, but not this year at least. An…

I set timers while cooking with speech all the time and I don’t see why that seems weird to you. I just think of it like some natural language parser helping me do something instead of talking to myself. Is it talking to yourself you find strange?

Funny you say this, using Siri to set timers when cooking was my "gateway drug" to using voice features on my phone more broadly.

For the longest time it was literally the only thing I used Siri for (cooking timers), but now I use Siri for setting reminders and other similar transactional stuff on my phone, and I use voice dictation for texts all the time in the car, and even sometimes when I'm walking in the cold and just don't want to take my gloves off..

And it works great. And it doesn't feel weird at all.

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