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Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#131

I have no idea whatsoever about what this device is doing but I'm pretty sure it should have been just a mobile app

Yeah the "OS" appears to be their backend that boils down to your login credentials + something like Selenium WebDriver + ChatGPT. The R1 device is just a thin client.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#133

This landing page is an utter failure. I can’t believe this got past anyone. I’ve read the whole thing and I still have no idea what it does or what problem it solves. I’m not watching a Keynote to find out either. Who made this?

Teenage Engineering is always like this. The hardware looks really cool (aesthetically I mean; no value judgment on quality or such) but they seem to have looked at Apple presentations and though those are not pretentious enough.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#134
The "keynote" (is that what we're calling advertising videos now?) was pretty awful, and I'm unconvinced that making people unable to even use smartphones (which has already supplanted computer literacy for most) is progress.

Extra negative taste points for wanting a "cool SUV" for a trip to London.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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post #111

How can you so badly fail at even saying what the hell this is on your shitty glossy web site? What is this? The page is just a list of hardware 'features' with large but unclear pictures. "push to talk button" ok, so? "far-field mike" ok, so? "360 degree rotational eye" so what? "analog scroll wheel" that does what? "usb-c plus sim card slot" which gives me what? There's a video but I shouldn't have to watch a video…

This is a bit harsh. I feel that you can figure out what the device is before even scrolling. It’s a companion device that you can interact with to get assistance with various things, and the features you mention are how it gets instructions and information.

Yea I didn't want to watch the video and had no idea what it was, my best guess was it was a quirky non-smart phone, never occurred to me it might be a "companion device" whatever that is exactly.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#136

This landing page is an utter failure. I can’t believe this got past anyone. I’ve read the whole thing and I still have no idea what it does or what problem it solves. I’m not watching a Keynote to find out either. Who made this?

Its made for TE fanboys who will buy anything TE releases. A TE product for only $200? They'll order 5.

Problem to solve? Why would that matter? It's a fashion lifestyle product.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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post #110

It's a neat idea but I'm not sure what the audience is. "It's simpler", but you still need to manage a bunch of integrations from a computer? It can't seem to make phone calls? I just want something that I can give my 93 year old grandfather so he can order a ride and get reminders about his prescriptions. Rabbit seems like a device that misses an audience that actually needs a simpler smartphone.

I think the intended audience is really anyone and everyone. It’s a very grand vision.

I definitely see the appeal. I do not like owning and using a smartphone. A more functional device with a pared back interface is exactly what I would want, and I think they’re _is_ a decent slice of people out there who agree. You see that in the dumb phone and minimalist phone market that’s popped up.

That said my experiences with LLMs are that they are woefully underbaked for this kind of thing, and it’s a really tough sell to me on a privacy basis as well.

But for older folks I’m not sure I agree that the market is missed. I suspect the idea would be that you would manage the web portion for your grandfather and then he can just chat to the device. Unclear if it can make calls though, that does seem like a miss!

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Idk, I think an iPhone in ten years will look a lot like it does now just with better Siri. Better Siri will open up a lot of things and it’ll be wonderful but we’ll still want a screen (we’ll still interact with the world largely via reading) and an iPhone just looks like a screen. Apple and Google presumably know about LLMs so I don’t really see this device being very influential.

I dunno. I could imagine replacing my iPhone and my laptop with something Rabbit sized and a lightweight set of AR glasses. But they need far more than the toy “OS” that Rabbit are demonstrating.

Maybe. That'd be interesting I suppose. Those Meta smart glasses do look more usable than anything on the market previously. Maybe because they omit screens.

Perhaps at some point technology will allow glasses to have screens that are functional without making you look like, as they called them ten years ago, a Glasshole. Ten years may be enough time.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#139

I am almost never a hater on people trying ambitious things, but man this is one of the most "doomed to fail" things I've ever seen. You've got absolutely insane market saturation by two major players that have some of the most advanced AI teams on the planet. Almost nobody is going to buy an "LLM-first phone," they will just wait for Apple or Google to put an LLM into their existing phone.

It’s $199. At that price it could be a viable cool toy like product to have in addition to your normal smartphone.

That's why I just ordered one. I don't know how it'll turn out, but for the price I'm willing to have a beautiful little fidget toy to play with.
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