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Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

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Re: Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

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Honestly hold off until next year if you can or when they announce the M4. Otherwise probably get whatever you can afford to upgrade the RAM.

Or just wait until the year after for the M5.

Point being the jump from intel to M1 was much bigger than the jump from M1 to M3.

Re: Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

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It's not the point, but it doesn't hurt that, at least on macOS the 'real native' APIs are... terrible! SwiftUI only just got rounded borders this year https://stackoverflow.com/questions/71744888/swiftui-view-wi... . People here complain about CSS, but that's been a platform feature since like 2003. On Windows the UI toolkit story is just as much of a pain, with microsoft reinventing the toolkit every other year, an…

Unless it lacks the ability to give a MacOSX Look & Feel, I don't see a problem.

Unfortunately, that's kind of the case. SwiftUI on Mac looks like ass

https://twitter.com/nikitonsky/status/1557357661171204098

https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/SystemSettings.html

Re: Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

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If 8GB will be a bottleneck for many today, imagine the performance of that non-upgradeable laptop in a few years’ time. Apple used to sell an iMac with non-upgradable RAM: we found this iMac has the memory soldered to the motherboard removing any possibility of adding additional memory. Users will be permanently locked in to the 8GB of memory, as there is no Apple factory upgrade option. https://eshop.macsales.com/b…

> Lots of returns and refurbs on that model.

You imagine, or you have data?

Re: Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

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I think the best reaction would be shame. Just a big round of shame for a trillion dollar company being so greedy to cripple their top equipment. Tech’s stagnated for over a decade and largely because of greed and at the expense of innovation. Prove me wrong? Do something genuinely new, like a mass produced cpu on germanium. Make a modern OS that’s a successor to unix-and plan9. Edit-Or at least a moddable iphone tha…

I’m in the market for a new Macbook. Should I get the M2 instead of the M3? The base M2 had 16GB RAM

What is your current computer? I still have my M1 Pro and it does everything I need it to right now.

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The reason they do this is to have a low headline price, yet push you into upgrading more than just the RAM. Customers see the low 'starting from' price, but then get pushed into upgrading for more RAM. At which point they see that they can change for a more powerful machine with the same RAM for only a bit more. You come in for an M3, but walk out with the M3 Pro.

Re: Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

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> 8GB is still good enough for office workers and students. That's not the target users for the "MacBook Pro " series.

The 8GB 14" MBP M3 is a strange one. I personally don't think this SKU should even exist. I think the 15" MBA can replace the now-deprecated 13" MBP Touchbar in the lineup. Apple did open themselves up to ridicule for putting 8GB on a $1600 "Pro" laptop.

I don't see why a user who only did light tasks on their Mac wouldn't want a 120hz screen.

Re: Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

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What kind of comparison is that 8 to 64. 8 GB for windows also sucks as well or Linux (save with tiling manager), software just bloats over time. Imo 8gb is not enough as baseline, today's 8gb is 16. I remember 4GB being good in 2015.

4gb was good in 2005. 16gb was good in 2015. Personally I won't use a computer (as a daily driver) without 64gb of RAM today. Everything eats memory like it's going out of style.

I use Office/Safari/Photos/Whatsapp/VLC and sometimes Chrome on my 2015 MacBook Air with 8GB, and it seems to work OK.

Re: Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

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Still the 1366x768 displays that they were using 10 years ago?

Just a quick glance at the dell website shows me an Inspiron 15 w/ 8GB RAM, and a 256GB nvme for $279. I'm sure the panel isn't great, but it is 1080p. It is an i3, but still... this is $279! Do some bargain hunting and you can find some pretty decent machines for <$500 now.

That 'i3' runs circles around i7 laptop CPUs from just a couple of years ago

Re: Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

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I don't understand... I routinely run my M1 Air with 4 instances of jetbrains IDEs, have dual screen, Safari with tens of tabs, additional apps like Rocket chat and more... and the machine never go past 8gb ram. What's going on with others ?

> What's going on with others ?

What's going on is that almost none of the people posting here have used an Apple Silicon Mac with 8GB of RAM, and don't realize that it's a very different experience than trying to use a PC with 8GB of RAM.

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