Ok so meat controls are bad in Romania. Romania is in Eastern Europe, but so are Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic. I would have no qualms at all eating rare meat in either of those countries. I just think stereotyping “Eastern Europe” as some mid-20th century agrarian backwater is very counterproductive to good discussion.
Prague is further west than Vienna.
It is! Still it’s part of Eastern Europe, by some definitions. See the Wikipedia page for Eastern Europe. All in all it’s a useless moniker these days for most purposes.
This is not true : eggs in Europe have an expiration date of 28 days (without fridge) and there’s still a fair safety margin. My lack of organisation gave me several times the opportunity to try eggs stores eggs longer than that - maybe 50days - and never had a problem. The only outdated egg I can remember (they are easy to notice by smell !) was “fresh”, strait from the shop, probably small cracks in the shell…
This is based on buying the eggs at the production day though. Usually they sit in the store for a good while.
The BB date is printed on every egg and egg carton. Just subtract 28 days to work out how long it’s been in storage/transit.
I feel like this page should have a warning, the fantastic Youtuber Ann Reardon investigated lots of cooking "hacks" to see if they were food safe, and she worked out that cooking salmon in a dishwasher does not bring it up to a food safe temperature. [1] Side note - in a different video she also did debunking on other food hacks and ended up investigating Russian bot networks who uploads both food hacks for hits and…
I added a safety section. YouTube generally isn't considered a reliable source for Wikipedia but I think they make exceptions sometimes. If not, hopefully someone will complain and add info from a more reliable source.
PS: I can't wait to check back tomorrow and see how being at the top of HN impacted the page views. Interesting that it had a small bump in views on Tuesday (probably posted/mentioned somehwere popular) and now a few days later showing up on the top of HN.
Shelf-life on a literal shelf is like a week or two. Shelf-life in the fridge is months for euro eggs.
This is not true : eggs in Europe have an expiration date of 28 days (without fridge) and there’s still a fair safety margin. My lack of organisation gave me several times the opportunity to try eggs stores eggs longer than that - maybe 50days - and never had a problem. The only outdated egg I can remember (they are easy to notice by smell !) was “fresh”, strait from the shop, probably small cracks in the shell…
Here in Norway we're fighting the 28-day rule[1], since our eggs are low on salmonella and the eggs are kept cold from producer to consumer.
Apparently tests have been done here and found our eggs were perfectly fine in a cake after a year in the fridge[2], but the taste of the egg itself changed a bit after 7 months. YMMV...
I feel like this page should have a warning, the fantastic Youtuber Ann Reardon investigated lots of cooking "hacks" to see if they were food safe, and she worked out that cooking salmon in a dishwasher does not bring it up to a food safe temperature. [1] Side note - in a different video she also did debunking on other food hacks and ended up investigating Russian bot networks who uploads both food hacks for hits and…
> and she worked out that cooking salmon in a dishwasher does not bring it up to a food safe temperature. That video was great! Although I notice she cooks it in a large jar of water. I suspect that it would take a long time to heat up all that water, hence it never reaches 62°C. Whereas if you just wrapped it in foil, it might transfer that heat to the fish much quicker.
Yeah, I think the key take away would be, if you do cook salmon in a dishwasher, in foil or in a jar, the first time you do it use a heat probe and graph to confirm it goes into the bacteria killing hot-zone for the correct amount of time. She also mentions heat resistant spores, so it should be eaten as soon as it comes out of your dishwasher. Once you’ve done one run and confirmed it’s ok, I expect you don’t need to do the temperature probe the next time.
I feel like this page should have a warning, the fantastic Youtuber Ann Reardon investigated lots of cooking "hacks" to see if they were food safe, and she worked out that cooking salmon in a dishwasher does not bring it up to a food safe temperature. [1] Side note - in a different video she also did debunking on other food hacks and ended up investigating Russian bot networks who uploads both food hacks for hits and…
I added a safety section. YouTube generally isn't considered a reliable source for Wikipedia but I think they make exceptions sometimes. If not, hopefully someone will complain and add info from a more reliable source. PS: I can't wait to check back tomorrow and see how being at the top of HN impacted the page views. Interesting that it had a small bump in views on Tuesday (probably posted/mentioned somehwere popular…
Well it looks like the salmon needs to be above 63C for 15 seconds to kill the bacteria, and eaten soon after cooking to mitigate bacteria spores that may grow days after. That's what she says in the video anyway, but I can't find a source for that, might be worth adding to wikipida? Hey if it stops a few people getting ill then it's worth it.
The BB date is printed on every egg and egg carton. Just subtract 28 days to work out how long it’s been in storage/transit.
Yeah, sure. But the stuff once you get it usually lasts like a week or two, which is my point. If you keep it outside of the fridge that is.
Maybe you’re in a more remote area? The eggs I buy usually have at least 3 weeks before their BB date. Sometimes they’re only 2-3 days old if I’m lucky. I usually try to buy the freshest eggs I can find as they poach better.
Raw salmon is one story. Salmon stored in a lukewarm dishwasher for 2-3 hours, neither cold enough to prevent the growth of bacteria nor hot enough to kill them, is a different story. Imagine a piece of sushi left on the shelf all afternoon in the summer in Phoenix, AZ!
Summer in phoenix gets to 120°F. In a car could get to 160°…