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Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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I am not - it's the fact being the most contagious virus known to science.

On what are you basing this on?

On the scientific evidence of the basic reproduction number of XBB1.5, which is 15 to 18, and measles, the previous #1, is 12 to 18!

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Covid fatigue is no joke. As an Elite Athlete I'm training 20-30 hours a week. I got covid last year (triple vaxed) and it wiped me out for a good 6 months. It took me 3 weeks to be able to walk longer than a minute without needing to lay down for the rest of the day and sleep. I have dealt with fatigue problems for 6 months and only just now, do I feel like I'm getting "back to normal". The most frustrating thing is…

From my experience, this stuff isn’t limited to COVID-19, and I don’t mean that to minimize your experience with it. I just want to note that I had the flu in 2013; my temperature got up to 104F, and I was sub-par for about that same amount of time; it was about 6 months before I felt back to 100%.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

#224

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On what are you basing this on?

On the scientific evidence of the basic reproduction number of XBB1.5, which is 15 to 18, and measles, the previous #1, is 12 to 18!

Comparing reproductive rates without normalizing for prior exposure does not tell us how transmissive it inherently is.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Covid fatigue is no joke. As an Elite Athlete I'm training 20-30 hours a week. I got covid last year (triple vaxed) and it wiped me out for a good 6 months. It took me 3 weeks to be able to walk longer than a minute without needing to lay down for the rest of the day and sleep. I have dealt with fatigue problems for 6 months and only just now, do I feel like I'm getting "back to normal". The most frustrating thing is…

Are you back to training? Or do you still need to be careful? Could you share some tips about pacing / not triggerring PEMs?

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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If you were "training" 2 weeks after the fever went away, congratulations - you didn't have long covid. You cannot exercise your way out of Long Covid, or other postviral fatigue syndromes - it presents identically to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Any attempt to exercise - even something as small as a short walk, or in severe cases merely taking a shower - results in a hard crash that feels completely unlike exercise fat…

I think there's something in-between though. I have been sick for 1.5 weeks (which is an extreme time for me by itself), afterwards I did not feel quite normal and got right back to being sick just after a few days, progressively getting worse. After another 1.5 weeks, I almost felt normal, only super-tired, I got to rest all day, only to wake up in the night feeling sick again. Another 5 days went by, to get back to…

Actually, I have long covid. The sick feeling / malaise were some sort of early PEMs I think. Soon afterward, after I pushed it a bit too much with no awareness on the issue, I had a huge crash that did not feel like being sick, more like beign drained from all energy. I used to work a bit and play a video game when I was sick previously, now I am not able to watch more than 1h of a movie without resting.

My whole life is suspended. I hope I will get to recover. I will try to rest as much as I can. I believe I got this because I was working while being sick. Who the fuck know something like this was possible. They should fucking teach about this in school... don't work while you are sick or risk ending up disabled. Instead most doctors don't even know such illness exist.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

#227

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On the scientific evidence of the basic reproduction number of XBB1.5, which is 15 to 18, and measles, the previous #1, is 12 to 18!

Comparing reproductive rates without normalizing for prior exposure does not tell us how transmissive it inherently is.

You get COVID-19 every couple of months - with or without prior illness or vaccination! This is not the case with measles, which has a proven vaccine with few and minor side effects!

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Covid fatigue is no joke. As an Elite Athlete I'm training 20-30 hours a week. I got covid last year (triple vaxed) and it wiped me out for a good 6 months. It took me 3 weeks to be able to walk longer than a minute without needing to lay down for the rest of the day and sleep. I have dealt with fatigue problems for 6 months and only just now, do I feel like I'm getting "back to normal". The most frustrating thing is…

I find it so bizarre that in almost every discussion of long COVID, an athlete who can no longer make it up a flight of stairs is invariably referenced or partakes in the discussion. I'm amazed how many people know athletes.

And it's never just extra fatigue. It's can't walk for 60 seconds, or up a flight of stairs, or open a jar.

N.B. I'm not denying post-viral fatigue. I've experienced it myself multiple times

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

#229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comparing reproductive rates without normalizing for prior exposure does not tell us how transmissive it inherently is.

You get COVID-19 every couple of months - with or without prior illness or vaccination! This is not the case with measles, which has a proven vaccine with few and minor side effects!

This is no different than the coronaviruses that cause the common cold. The infections get progressively milder until, at about the 5th infection, exposure no longer leads to infection.
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