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You cannot have the former without the latter.

As a PoC imo diversity of ideas/viewpoints is much more important

And yet... "As a PoC"

I think it's fair to say that ideas/viewpoints are very important, but to ignore the reality of groups of people frequently targeted is silly.

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Finally, diversity of ideas, and not diversity of skin color.

You cannot have the former without the latter.

You can't be serious. Ideas are not attached to skin color. That's a regressive, racist belief.

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> I have no idea why anyone gives a damn what the content moderation policies might be. Because falling afoul of them doesn't just make your tweets not show up in Discover to people who don't know you. It means you can't tweet to your friends either. To be clear, your post has completely valid reasons to not care if moderation is too lax , but you do still need to care if it's too strict .

Right. The best balance is to be more lenient on speech moderation, but have fewer algorithmic recommendations and push less "controversial" or popular content onto users' feeds.

See, this right here is where you lost me.

> fewer algorithmic recommendations and push less "controversial" or popular content onto users' feeds.

There is not ANY 'algorithmic' content on my Twitter feed. Zero! What are you referring to?!

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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but what about "full self moderating?!" jokes aside. there actually could be some opportunity to do some really cool stuff like some kind of experimental political science. like, mechanisms for population clustering and distribution of representation. like, running human clustering algorithms and then using the size of those clusters to allocate representation. a blueprint for future attempts at stable democracy that…

Twitter isn't a government entity. If anything, simply removing algorithms and stop suggesting content and let people set rules on how much or what type of content by other users is seen is sufficient.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Finally, diversity of ideas, and not diversity of skin color.

You cannot have the former without the latter.

You can have the latter and have a echo chamber of a single narrative, which is exactly twitter was. Then pat your self on the back "OH we are so inclusive look at the the different skin tones!" Yeah but everyone has the same boring ideas so what the fuck does that matter?

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And conversely the US is one of the most restrictive nations on earth when it comes to speech that supposedly infringes Copyrights or can be interpreted as defamation/slander. The premise that US has anything resembling freedom of speech is completely untrue.

Libel/slander are famously hard to prove in the US. Sure you're not thinking of the UK? Are peer nations substantially more liberal on copyright infringement than the US? I haven't really heard of that. Really, it seemed like other countries like Japan and Germany were stricter.

Didn’t an entertainer in the US recently get sued for millions of dollars over Defamation simply for repeating a popular internet conspiracy theory on his show-that some public figures were supposedly “crisis actors”? (Peoples who’s names he never even mentioned, at that..)

If calling public figures actors is all it takes for them to successfully sue for millions, the bar seems incredibly low.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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I think one reasonable policy could be "form a council of diverse viewpoints and only ban someone if they all (or mostly all) agree the person should be kicked off" and another reasonable policy could be "form a council fo diverse viewpoints and ban someone if one (or a couple) think the person should be kicked off. I think its fair to say the committee will end up being a scapegoat - but to be charitable to the idea…

Your first policy is reasonable, but your second is definitely not.

You could use the second standard to flag a user as "spicy" and hide them for users who prefer to be exposed to more "normal" opinions.

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Fundamentally twitter didn't twirl their moustache and aim to shutdown conservatives. There was no conspiracy as it were but they didn't consider the consequences of decisions, ultimately culminating in shutting down conservatives.

If Elon ran roughshot in making decisions without considering consequences, he ends up in the same fundamental root cause problem twitter is already in. He understands this and hence why he's not making changes on read-only friday.

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This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

>maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience It's either going to be a double standard or not. I moderated a busy gaming site for years. Users have nothing to do but re-post what got someone else banned and then complain things aren't consistent. I would find the idea that a politician gets to say things, but I don't completely absurd.

If you moderated the 18-25, huge respect, I’m just adding background info: it’s a huge piece of French culture among geeks, like the 4chan, except most of the interesting website exists within the lapse between posting and being censored. It’s everything-ist and very bad taste. The rest is uninteresting, if it stays on, then it means it doesn’t say anything of any relevance. Moderators are kept to believe they’re administering a gaming forum with occasional slip-ups, whereas “being 410ed” became a colloquial word among teens (410 means your post returns HTTP-410, i.e. it was deleted). It’s like Snapchat, nothing lives for eternity (18-25 stands for the age, it’s not a 13-52 ratio, that would be banned). The 18-25 is a piece of ephemeral art.
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