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One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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The gulf states are modern-day slave societies.

I have the privilege to come into contact with migrants. I have seen things that should not happen in a wealthy European country. Everything the media writes about Quatar I know is going on right here. The outrage is minimal. As long as desperation for money exists someone will exploit it.

The major difference you left out is scale...

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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From the article:

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Nasser Al-Khater, chairman of Qatar's 2022 World Cup organising committee, has said that all World Cup attendees will be safe regardless of their sexual orientation or culture.

In December 2021 Al-Khater did confirm that "homosexuality is not allowed" in the emirate, but promises that LGTBIQ+ fans will have the right to travel to the country and attend matches.

"Qatar and the region are a lot more conservative," Al-Khater told CNN.

"And this is what we ask fans to respect. And we're sure that fans will respect that.

"We respect different cultures and we expect other cultures to respect ours.

"Qatar is a tolerant country. It's a welcoming country. It's a hospitable country."

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Al-Khater seems to define "tolerant", "welcoming" and "hospitable" differently than I do.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Interesting interview on the radio here in the UK a few weeks ago with a famous climber who went to Saudi Arabia I think to compete after much moral deliberation. He did say that every native he spoke to was very grateful for his attendance, people travelling and participating in these sorts of events is an effective way to bring change and open peoples eyes, mainly through his insistence there were female climbers c…

It could bring change and open people's eyes, but it can also be used to legitimize and normalize a regime that shouldn't.

Bringing change by strengthening economic and cultural ties has been tried for a few decades now with mixed results. Be that the United States–China Relations Act of 2000 during the Clinton administration, or Angela Merkel cozying up with Russia during her chancellorship. In one case, it didn't keep China from abusing its Uyghur citizens, in the other case, it didn't keep Russia from invading Ukraine.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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And why don't we in the west sanction them or refuse to trade with them for this practice? Not only that but we're actively supporting these regimes and selling them cutting edge weapons. Why is that? 'checks notes' Oh, right, oil.

> And why don't we in the west sanction them or refuse to trade with them for this practice? I wish we would. Possibly the one good thing coming out of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a realization that depending on oil and gas leaves you very vulnerable and that alternative sources of energy must become more common.

Most countries on earth simply cease to function as they are doing now with alternative eco-friendly energy sources.

Applying alternative energy sources where it doesn't make sense to do so ends up throwing billions of dollars on having solar panels where they can never generate the energy they theoretically could (Germany, I'm looking at you)

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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If you get raped and report it as though you were in a civilized place you will be arrested and charged with adultery. For being raped.

Deuteronomy 22-22:29 is good stuff

You rather not be married if you are to be raped I guess? Do I read the rules correctly?

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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It is not about the Kafala system, since even the West has similar systems. It is that they treat migrant workers that are not highly skilled specially from specific backgrounds bad.

In Saudi Arabia, Gulf States, and elsewhere in the region migrant workers have their passport taken by the employer and thus can’t leave the country. They are stuck. In most other countries the employer does not confiscate your passport. It’s weird to me that one needs a passport to leave a country. In the U.S. you don’t need a passport to leave.

you still need the passport to enter anywhere else, even your home country

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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https://gctpnews.org/qatar-2022-world-cup-death-toll/ "The name of the current [migrant worker employment] system is kafala, a system forcing all migrants to be sponsored and subsequently tied to an employer. The kafala system has been frequently described as modern day slavery due to its exploitative nature. This employer controls housing, wages, travel, and the well being of each employee." "[...] an estimated 4,00…

What I love is that institutions like universities will happily link arms with Qatar for the $$$, despite the neo-slavery: https://www.qatar.northwestern.edu . Really puts their woke messaging at home in context.

“Institutions” in general don’t have woke messaging, specific institutions do. “Universities” in general don’t have partnerships with the Qatar government, specific universities do.

Just because one university is very “woke”, and another university forms a partnership with Qatar does not mean that universities in general are hypocritical, or even that any specific university is hypocritical.

If you are going to make such a broad argument as “American universities are hypocritically supporting the Qarar government” as you seem to be, you need to give more examples than just one university forming a partnership with Qatar.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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https://gctpnews.org/qatar-2022-world-cup-death-toll/ "The name of the current [migrant worker employment] system is kafala, a system forcing all migrants to be sponsored and subsequently tied to an employer. The kafala system has been frequently described as modern day slavery due to its exploitative nature. This employer controls housing, wages, travel, and the well being of each employee." "[...] an estimated 4,00…

It is not about the Kafala system, since even the West has similar systems. It is that they treat migrant workers that are not highly skilled specially from specific backgrounds bad.

It's not just migrant workers thought, my one cousin who is a white collar worker, making significantly more than me, lived under similar conditions with respect to passport and living...they even go through his mail. I have had other cousins in the are who have worked as labourers and the first hand accounts as bad as we've heard.
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