HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS • Hacker News Board

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by gigatexal » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:05 AM UTC

sigg3 wrote: post #218

gigatexal wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? I have 64GB of ram in my Ubuntu workstation. I run FF, Chrome, Docker, etc etc and regularly have some 55+ GB free.

But you might not be running corporate security tools that invariably eat cycle after cycle, to the point crashing the desktop. I often have to defend Linux because unknowing colleagues blame the OS, when htop shows it's this or that mandated background process.

Yeah my 2020 work MacBook is always blasting its fans because corporate IT installed some monitoring software that is scanning everything all the time. The laptop is a nuclear hazard site cuz it’s so hot all the time. I need headphones on to drown out the fan noise.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by midislack » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:06 AM UTC

Awwwww, chicklet keyboard PLUS the utterly insufferable arrow keys? Damn, so close.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by Shared404 » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:06 AM UTC

aendruk wrote: post #198

koprulusector wrote: post #168

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Actually, since they highlight “auto-tiling” window manager (I’m trying to see which one), I think the assumption is that users won’t be relying on the mouse all that much. Kind of the whole benefit of tiling window managers.

Pop!_OS ships with Pop Shell [1], an ambitious and well polished GNOME Shell extension inspired by i3wm. [1] https://github.com/pop-os/shell#readme

Most of my machines have either Pop Shell or i3/sway, and I have to say that Pop Shell is _fantastic_ for an ootb tiling setup.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by midislack » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:07 AM UTC

filmgirlcw wrote: post #99

This isn’t a laptop I would personally buy for many of the reasons others have put in this thread, but it’s incredible to see such a focused SKU from HP here. This will likely be a small volume product and it is almost certainly based on something else in the HP portfolio (advantage of being such a huge OEM), but it’s nice to see a developer marketed laptop in this way. And running a distro other than straight Ubuntu…

Are we sure it’s just one SKU?

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by midislack » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:10 AM UTC

easton wrote: post #30

Is this a custom laptop or a different SKU of an existing one? I haven’t seen a recent EliteBook so I can’t identify it on sight anymore, unfortunately.

By definition an SKU is unique, it’s a product ID code. The exact same laptop would have two different SKUs if it came in two colors but was otherwise identical.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by howinteresting » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:15 AM UTC

xvector wrote: post #220

kaladin-jasnah wrote: post #169

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My Ryzen puts that M1 to shame since it can run any Linux distro with full graphics acceleration natively. An M1 can't even do that yet.

The actual real-world usage experience of M1 laptops far exceeds anything else on the market today.

macOS is pretty close to garbage for my needs, so it varies by the person. Of course I'm looking forward to Asahi becoming more mainstream (I do need Thunderbolt support for example).

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by rgoulter » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:17 AM UTC

prescriptivist wrote: post #13

Looking at the keyboard layout makes me wonder. How many devs here actually use the right shift key and/or the right modifier keys? I've been programming for 20 years (15 or so using emacs) and I exclusively use the left shift and left modifiers. I probably have never used the (physically) right shift/modifier keys on the keyboard I'm currently typing on that I've had for 2 years. I loathe the four left modifier key…

Initially I only used the left-hand modifier keys.. then figured this is pretty terrible for the hand, requiring a bunch of stretching. I tried to use the opposite-hand modifier after that.

Now, I use a custom keyboard, so that I can avoid using my pinky finger as much, and can put the modifiers on the home-row.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by saghm » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:24 AM UTC

sigg3 wrote: post #218

gigatexal wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? I have 64GB of ram in my Ubuntu workstation. I run FF, Chrome, Docker, etc etc and regularly have some 55+ GB free.

But you might not be running corporate security tools that invariably eat cycle after cycle, to the point crashing the desktop. I often have to defend Linux because unknowing colleagues blame the OS, when htop shows it's this or that mandated background process.

This seems like a reasonable explanation, given that it fits my experience as well. My work Macbook Pro often is quite laggy when JAMF decides to scan everything (i.e. for several minutes after booting up and periodically throughout the day afterwards), whereas my Linux personal machines are almost always quite snappy, even with games running at fairly high performance settings through WINE at the same time as Firefox, discord, sometimes VS Code, etc.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by saghm » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:25 AM UTC

gigatexal wrote: post #221

sigg3 wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you might not be running corporate security tools that invariably eat cycle after cycle, to the point crashing the desktop. I often have to defend Linux because unknowing colleagues blame the OS, when htop shows it's this or that mandated background process.

Yeah my 2020 work MacBook is always blasting its fans because corporate IT installed some monitoring software that is scanning everything all the time. The laptop is a nuclear hazard site cuz it’s so hot all the time. I need headphones on to drown out the fan noise.

Same! My cats greatly prefer when I'm at my desk working compared to personal time because my work laptop (a Macbook plugged into a monitor and kept shut) gets so warm and they love to sleep on it.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by happymellon » Sat, May 21, 2022, 5:26 AM UTC

gigatexal wrote: post #221

sigg3 wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you might not be running corporate security tools that invariably eat cycle after cycle, to the point crashing the desktop. I often have to defend Linux because unknowing colleagues blame the OS, when htop shows it's this or that mandated background process.

Yeah my 2020 work MacBook is always blasting its fans because corporate IT installed some monitoring software that is scanning everything all the time. The laptop is a nuclear hazard site cuz it’s so hot all the time. I need headphones on to drown out the fan noise.

That last gen Intel Macbooks overheat so easily.

The corporate security software is so awful mine stays at an ambient temperature of around 60°c with the constant background tasks. That can't be good for the hardware.