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Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by oneplane »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #89
jasoneckert wrote: post #44

I'm not going to critique this laptop as others have done here. Just over $1K for a laptop with an 8 core Ryzen, 16GB DDR4 and a 1TB SSD isn't outrageous. The main takeaways I get from this are that HP is now getting on the Linux developer bandwagon, and that they chose Pop!_OS as their distro due to the success and reputation of System76. And I think these are both good things, and a sign that we'll see more of the…

Definitely. Imagine a world where perennially late to the market HP is chasing the trend of Linux on the laptop. We now live in that world. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31391880

The weird thing is that HP undermines their effort a bit by they doing the consumer bloatware thing where they 'load it up with stuff for you to do your job' according to their marketing material.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by the_pwner224 »

suprjami wrote: post #142
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #116

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The keyboard is missing an Insert key. But they're advertising an "FHD" screen as though that's a selling feature? That's only 1920x1080 - my Sony Vaio Z laptop from 2010 has the same resolution. People doing any kind of user-facing frontend dev-work pretty-much need a screen capable of 2x/200%/192dpi (i.e. 4K) at least. ...that's a deal-killer for me, as is the lack of a true middle-button on the touchpad. I'll be s…

Also, bold of you to assume Linux HiDPI support is up to the task. Evidently HP don't think so.

2x scaling just works, and has been that way for a while on desktop Linux. Not sure about the state of fractional scaling.

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Post by HenryMulligan »

scrlk wrote: post #102
aidenn0 wrote: post #73

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The pointer stick on my HP isn't as good as the one on a thinkpad, but it's "okay." Of course my HP has a middle-button so the lack of that here is mind boggling to me.

Do you have a ZBook? Those have always had the middle mouse button (probably for people who use CAD etc). EliteBook trackpoints never had a middle button.

"EliteBook trackpoints never had a middle button."

That is not correct. My old HP EliteBook 8560W had not one but two sets of three mouse buttons. See the first image at this article: https://notebooks.com/2011/04/12/hp-elitebook-8560w-details-...

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by [deleted] »

ramesh31 wrote: post #153
crossroadsguy wrote: post #138

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Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. If HP also had that license - even a second or a third tier one - they’d have priced it $2989 and make everything not upgradable and announced “Pre-installed Linux for the first time ever in any…… HP laptop” and HN would be filled with comments like “I only have 3GB RAM in my HP laptop and it even lifts my pickup truck. Best ever $3K…

>Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. A new M1 Macbook Air starts at $999, and will put that Ryzen to shame. Not to mention infinitely better build quality and battery life. Apple has always been a great value for the price, even if that price is slightly higher than the bargain bin stuff.

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Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by seltzered_ »

Dear HP, you've also made a great repairable Linux Tablet, the Elite X2 (G4 & G8) which was discontinued this year. Consider bringing it back with a 3k2k OLED display and a wired & bluetooth keyboard/Trackpad (like you had on the HP zbook x2 G4) and get a decent marketing team.

The folks at https://reddit.com/r/ergomobilecomputers will thank you.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by numpad0 »

hedora wrote: post #72
emmelaich wrote: post #60

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The presence of the buttons doesn't matter much does it? Assuming a tap works as mouse click. Maybe they're there for nipple users - it has one. Use fingers on the nipple and thumb on the button. So to speak.

The third button is usually for scrolling.

And for closing tabs/opening links in background. Both are required.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by koprulusector »

pzlarsson wrote: post #40

It has a trackpoint with 2 buttons which tells us they did not put any serious effort into this input device. Would you use a 2 button mouse without scroll-wheel or a touchpad without 2-fingers scrolling? I suspect this low effort goes for the whole product which is a budget laptop with marketing directed at decision makers instead of users.

Actually, since they highlight “auto-tiling” window manager (I’m trying to see which one), I think the assumption is that users won’t be relying on the mouse all that much. Kind of the whole benefit of tiling window managers.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by kaladin-jasnah »

ramesh31 wrote: post #153
crossroadsguy wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. If HP also had that license - even a second or a third tier one - they’d have priced it $2989 and make everything not upgradable and announced “Pre-installed Linux for the first time ever in any…… HP laptop” and HN would be filled with comments like “I only have 3GB RAM in my HP laptop and it even lifts my pickup truck. Best ever $3K…

>Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. A new M1 Macbook Air starts at $999, and will put that Ryzen to shame. Not to mention infinitely better build quality and battery life. Apple has always been a great value for the price, even if that price is slightly higher than the bargain bin stuff.

My Ryzen puts that M1 to shame since it can run any Linux distro with full graphics acceleration natively. An M1 can't even do that yet.

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Post by macNchz »

julianlam wrote: post #119
InfamousRece wrote: post #109

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I can definitely see myself using this machine. 16GB is enough for me as I don’t use electron. 8 core Ryzen is decent too.

I feel like a lot of developers overestimate the hardware specs that they need. My main development machine is a simple Ryzen 3 with 8GB RAM, and I run two electron apps (VS Code and Slack) at all times. A comment in a separate thread here mentioned virtualization. That and gaming would be two legitimate use cases, but for plain-jane development, "8gb ought to be enough for anybody" (har har)

There are a lot of people using virtualized development environments, which can make it much simpler to run a production-like system locally.

I’m pretty sure 16gb machines have been the baseline for developers everywhere I’ve worked for the past decade.

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