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Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by NoThisIsMe »

eyeball wrote: post #210
askvictor wrote: post #99

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Having recently moved back to Linux (PopOS) from Windows, the one biggest annoyance is not being able to configure two-finger touchpad swipe to be browser back/forward. This is the default in Mac, easily configurable in Windows (perhaps it's the default?), and default in ChromeOS. But simply not an option in any Linux I've tried. The Epiphany Browser does it, but that lacks extension support so is a no-go for me. Any…

My annoyance in going to pop from windows is lack of the address bar in the file explorer. I miss the ability to copy/paste file paths there, click up to navigate up the directory structure, drag and drop paths into shortcuts, etc.

Assuming Nautilus, Ctrl+L. I do wish just clicking on it worked though. I'd guess the reason they haven't implemented that is because it's also the window bar, so it's draggable.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by _dain_ »

xedrac wrote: post #94
somenewaccount1 wrote: post #66

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Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

Why bother implementing ctrl+c and ctrl+v in Linux when highlighting text copies it, and middle click pastes it? Ctrl+c feels like the dark ages in comparison.

Because maybe I don't want to clobber my clipboard with every damned thing I highlight?

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by rbreaves »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #101

I was thinking the other day that Apple is the only company developing their operating system and devices for consumers. I am not sure where Microsofts attention is these days. They have Windows Server I am not sure how the teams are allocated anymore. The vast majority of investment and work in Linux is for what FAANG and other enterprises need. The visual sugar POP_OS adds is nice, perhaps the on Linux. But it does…

Yea, Desktop Linux is edging closer and closer. I am finding that I have been able to make go of Ubuntu Budgie w/ my kinto.sh app, sorun.me & autorandr.. which I need to the last thing to sorun.me as it is my "setup my entire desktop OS in 5 minutes or less" script.

Autorandr is amazing.. and I am also making betterScale atm to help hiDPI laptop users scale their Gnome based or Budgie based DE w/ or w/o mixed lo and hi dpi monitors.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by cmurf »

eitland wrote: post #192
im_down_w_otp wrote: post #184

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Definitely not rose tinted glasses. I regularly use an old SE/30 to write notes in Word 5 just as an escape from distractions when I'm trying to get thoughts down and organized.

Sounds older than what I worked on, one of the beloved (by Mac fans) 2009 Macbook Pros.

Mac SE/30 is from circa 1989.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by 867-5309 »

eitland wrote: post #185
nickcox wrote: post #180

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It's been a while since I used a Mac but my recollection is that the same Emacs style key bindings were available for all text fields pretty much without exception. https://jblevins.org/log/kbd

Thanks, this might come in useful at some point. That said, on Windows and in Linux this is extremely much simpler and more consistent, I can write it down right here and now, it doesn't need a full web page: arrow keys: move ctrl + arrow left/right: move left/right to next word boundary. shift + arrow left/right: select a character to the left/right. ctrl + shift + arrow left/right: select to next word boundary.

except at some terminals, when ctrl+arrow doesn't work, or prints a weird character, so you try alt+arrow and it does work. then you're using alt+arrow for so long you go to another terminal, use it, and end up switching to another tty session, the same as you had learnt for ctrl+alt+F2. your brain pauses for 5 seconds, you try and get back with ctrl+alt+F1, which does nothing here. then you capsize bare metal and revert back to a VM within your childhood OS to emotionally distance yourself from the shapeshifting nightmare of linux key bindings, install the latest guest additions, accidentally press ctrl+alt+down at a loading screen out of underwhelmed boredom, now your screen within a screen is downside-up. you then short circuit your $300 keyboard with tears, before briefly dismissing reconsidering your life choices

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by rbreaves »

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #53

All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Could try my Sorun.me script.. built for Ubuntu Budgie and installs a lot of dev goodies (can be read in a basic yaml config file before installing) and yes consistent shortcuts from my meticulously built Kinto.sh app.

https://github.com/rbreaves/sorun

Have fun!!!

The config file for the curious.

https://github.com/rbreaves/sorun/blob/main/configs/ubuntu_b...

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by TacticalCoder »

pessimizer wrote: post #154
johndoughy wrote: post #79

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Couldn't agree more about consistent keyboard shortcuts. It's crazy to me that mere copy/paste doesn't have a consistent keyboard shortcut across the system (eg terminal uses ctrl-shift-c or something). And if copy/paste isn't consistent, there's little hope for other shortcuts.

Ctrl-C is a break signal. When you're in the UI, ctrl-c, ctrl-x, and ctrl-v work like you would expect. How do you send a break on a mac terminal? I didn't think it was any different.

> Ctrl-C is a break signal

and you can change that if you want in your terminal emulator. I modified some of my xterm's defaults using stty (I didn't change ctrl-c though, but you can change it).

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by jagger27 »

eitland wrote: post #169
im_down_w_otp wrote: post #53

All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

> and be as consistent as my old Macs. Would it help if I point out that this is just rose tinted glasses? ;-) Or at least, when I used Mac full time back in 2009 - 2012, it was the least consistent thing I ever used: even such basic shortcuts as moving a word forward or backwards was inconsistent. Same with home/end: in one app it would be CMD + arrow left/right, in another it would be fn + arrow left/right. In Safa…

Of all the things to criticize macOS and Macs on, keyboard shortcuts are not it. They’re the gold standard of consistency and ergonomics as far as I’m concerned. I get not being used to them and having different muscle memory.
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