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Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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What worked for me was disabling HTTP3 support with the 'network.http.http3.enabled' key in about:config and then restarting Firefox. Seems like it's stuck in the 'SocketThread', repeatedly doing this: 2022-01-13 08:20:53.075936 UTC - [Parent 4106991: Socket Thread]: V/nsHttp Http3Stream::OnReadSegment count=333 state=4 [this=7f6e295623a0]

It seems there's no need anymore, autoupdate fixes the issue since approx 09:25 UTC

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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post #154
post #131

I suggested that data collection should be opt-in since it is (almost) the cause of this issue, and my comment was hidden for "advocacy". https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c11

That's very telling, isn't it. After all, who were you advocating for?

Devil's advocate here but they were perhaps advocating against metrics at a time when Mozilla has a lot of pressure to do right and might need those metrics to perform.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#224

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I don't think Mozilla's income is a problem. They are making money. The problem is how they spend that money. My impression is that they lost the original spirit. Mozilla lacked a BDFL that would embody that spirit. What's going on at Mozilla is probably what's going to happen for Linux once Linus is out. Both these pieces of open source software are way too big to be replicated now by a dude or a bunch of dudes and…

> My impression is that they lost the original spirit. Mozilla lacked a BDFL that would embody that spirit. Since we are sharing our impressions, mine is that the Mozilla Foundation's current CEO doesn't believe in Firefox. Instead, I think, they are leveraging Firefox' popularity to try and position the Mozilla Foundation as a defender of internet freedom, at which point they won't need Firefox anymore. What happens…

You're probably_right. This meshes with most of their actions and a lot of comments by Mozilla employees on HN in past threads about Mozilla/FF.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#225

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Agreed, income isn't a problem. It's vision. But I don't want to support Mozilla in a financial way if their vision doesn't match my own. This may sound presumptuous but we really need an open web and Mozilla is one of the last defenders (and failing). I don't want my monetary donations to go to side projects, I want a great open source browser as the focus.

Maybe, just maybe, once Mozilla fails people and organizations will finally understand what terrible mistake they made by giving total control over the web to Google. Maybe this could be the beginning of a new project, managed by an institution with clear aims and no Mozilla-Foundation-style bullshit. Remember the early days of Firefox? It crashed often, it was slow, but we had great expectations ad supported it. It…

It's super important. And that's why it is also important that they focus on the browser instead of on all of their hobby horses.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#226

Manual install on aging Ubuntu refused to load pages and pegged CPU. Manually reverted, and launching my older version (92!) demanded I either create a new profile or quit. This would have been a disaster except I tried it out on a spare profile in the first place, so I recommend this to anyone making a similar experiment. I haven't set DOH (!) that I can remember. Running through the initial ff setup a couple of tim…

>Manually reverted, and launching my older version (92!) demanded I either create a new profile or quit.

use --allow-downgrade switch

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, income isn't a problem. It's vision. But I don't want to support Mozilla in a financial way if their vision doesn't match my own. This may sound presumptuous but we really need an open web and Mozilla is one of the last defenders (and failing). I don't want my monetary donations to go to side projects, I want a great open source browser as the focus.

Maybe, just maybe, once Mozilla fails people and organizations will finally understand what terrible mistake they made by giving total control over the web to Google. Maybe this could be the beginning of a new project, managed by an institution with clear aims and no Mozilla-Foundation-style bullshit. Remember the early days of Firefox? It crashed often, it was slow, but we had great expectations ad supported it. It…

It crashed often, it was slow - but still faster and far more usable than the horror of IE6. As we're headed for a web that's built for Google (...Chrome), challenging the status quo may be far harder.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#228
post #175

It seems another workaround is disabling the collection of usage data: https://twitter.com/vanilla_chief/status/1481546294489489409 €: It seems telemetry does no longer triggers the bug as they've changed something on the server side? So this probably won't help anymore.

I already had that disabled when it struck me.

I had too but it mysteriously re-enabled on all FF instances on various laptops and desktops here. I wonder when that happened.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#229

It is time for Mozilla to stop messing around. They are losing user trust extremely fast. A silent FireFox update that cripples the browser? No active update was done since yesterday and this morning: a broken browser. Please stop non-browser development and let me pay a monthly fee for a decent browser! I don’t want a VPN service, bookmark readers or other crap. I want Mozilla to defend the open web and create an op…

While your point stands - it's worth pointing out that this bug was NOT caused by an update [1], but seems to have been a long-standing bug in the HTTP3 stack that was triggered due to some external site (including apparently Mozilla's telemetry provider) that changed their stack.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow, thank you so much for this. I've been trying to troubleshoot this for hours but because my browser didn't work I never thought of checking HN to see if other people had this as well. Another score for automatic updates I guess.

As others said, this happened to all kinds of versions, not just 96.

V94 didn't work either
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