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Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by madeofpalk »

anonymouse008 wrote: post #154
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #31

Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…

Are there any consequences for downloading these files? I’d like to learn best practices from a successful company — but not at existential risk.

Just because it at a "successful" company doesnt mean its a best practice.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by Trisell »

boringg wrote: post #196
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #31

Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…

Am I the only one a bit disappointed by the gross earnings for the top 5 earners given how much the media has ben hyping the money made by e-gamers. For some reason I would have thought they would make more money over 2 years. Top earner was grossing $ 9.6M ($4.8M/yr), 10th was $2.9M($1.4M/yr), at 81 you drop below $1M (500k/yr) on twitch pre-tax revenue. After 81 you drop below the %1M over two years threshold. Actu…

Also good to note that most streamers have a side donation system that more then likely isn’t included in these numbers. Donations seem to be generally run through a non twitch third party site. And is probably a substantial increase if not a doubling of their income.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by bogwog »

jsiepkes wrote: post #7

> An unreleased Steam competitor, codenamed Vapor, from Amazon Game Studios The choosing of the name Vapor is probably no accident when the main competitor is Steam. Just like when IBM launched the "Eclipse foundation" which was arguably based on one of Sun's most prized possessions; Java.

That sounds like an internal product name. At launch they'll probably pick something significantly less clever and more generic.

It would be pretty awesome if they stuck with "Vapor" though. It'd be some WWE-style drama, and great for marketing.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by algoatecorn »

boringg wrote: post #196
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #31

Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…

Am I the only one a bit disappointed by the gross earnings for the top 5 earners given how much the media has ben hyping the money made by e-gamers. For some reason I would have thought they would make more money over 2 years. Top earner was grossing $ 9.6M ($4.8M/yr), 10th was $2.9M($1.4M/yr), at 81 you drop below $1M (500k/yr) on twitch pre-tax revenue. After 81 you drop below the %1M over two years threshold. Actu…

Brand deals usually match or exceed their income from Twitch as well.

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Post by youerbt »

swarnie wrote: post #74
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #31

Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…

Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.

I don't get what's so funny about it.

In streaming case, for whatever reason you want to make a donation to somebody, not doing it because they are richer than you seems very strange to me.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by bogwog »

Asraelite wrote: post #43
jsiepkes wrote: post #7

> An unreleased Steam competitor, codenamed Vapor, from Amazon Game Studios The choosing of the name Vapor is probably no accident when the main competitor is Steam. Just like when IBM launched the "Eclipse foundation" which was arguably based on one of Sun's most prized possessions; Java.

Kind of a funny choice when "vaporware" is a thing.

Extra funny with the context of Amazon Game Studios.

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Post by jonwachob91 »

boringg wrote: post #196
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #31

Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…

Am I the only one a bit disappointed by the gross earnings for the top 5 earners given how much the media has ben hyping the money made by e-gamers. For some reason I would have thought they would make more money over 2 years. Top earner was grossing $ 9.6M ($4.8M/yr), 10th was $2.9M($1.4M/yr), at 81 you drop below $1M (500k/yr) on twitch pre-tax revenue. After 81 you drop below the %1M over two years threshold. Actu…

A lot of those streamers are pretty open about how twitch revenue is a small portion of their earnings.

Ninja was famously paid $1MM for an 8 hour ad of playing Apex at launch.

I've had private conversation with large streaming friends that have all said independently that the amount they get paid from a short Raid Shadow Legends ad is huge. One said it's enough to buy a nice car, and if they hit their target downloads (w/ link) the number jumps up to enough to buy multiple nice cars.

There is a lot of big money for streamers, not just big streamers.

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Post by rgallagher27 »

polote wrote: post #200
dannyw wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The leak contains much more than this FYI, there's a hundred gigabytes of code and resources from dozens of repositories. Looks like someone dumped everything on their github enterprise. I wonder if this'll lead to software engineers in big companies having more restricted access to code?

> I wonder if this'll lead to software engineers in big companies having more restricted access to code? I don't think that Twitch has closed source code because they want to keep code private. It's probably more a matter of don't want to show commit message in case there are some bad words inside it. And don't want to show the world in case their source code look bad. Twitch without its code source can't work yeah,…

Doubt they care too much about bad words in commit messages, what they should worry about is if they've ever checked in passwords/secrets/private keys and not re-written the git history

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by madeofpalk »

pid-1 wrote: post #107

Managed git services suck at providing security that scales beyond a few devs. Most orgs that use GitHub are exposed to the risk of having their source code leaked by current or past employees. I'm hoping this leak will have serious financial consequences and bring awareness to that.

How do you stop that? To write the code you need to have access to it.

Really it just comes down to trust, and not having anything actually sensitive in the code, no?

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by dekerta »

gverrilla wrote: post #171

I don't understand it: these companies have enormous funding, an army of employees, and they can't provide the service reliably (both regarding consistency and safety). What all these coders do all day? I'm asking as an uninformed party of course. But it looks to me like these are companies that build bridges, and their bridges are collapsing all the time.

Your analogy would be more accurate if the bridges were constantly being blown up by terrorists. Designing perfectly secure online systems is very hard (if not impossible). Software is very complex, and people are trying to break in constantly. It only takes one person to get lucky or find a vulnerability
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