HN is vastly concerned about privacy and screaming about FB transgression on these issues etc., but the top post here is about disseminating private information of 10's of thousands of people.
You're not wrong.
Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.
Isn't that the basis of the economy with the increasing wealth gap and so on? It's not really materially different to paying Disney millionaires to go watch the latest Marvel movie.
>It's not really materially different to paying Disney millionaires to go watch the latest Marvel movie.
I feel like it's substantially different, you are paying Disney the money to watch the movie, you don't really care about the actors or other people who worked on it.
On the other hand, twitch users pay for the sake of paying money, it's closer to something like strip clubs.
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#153HN is vastly concerned about privacy and screaming about FB transgression on these issues etc., but the top post here is about disseminating private information of 10's of thousands of people.
Hn is no different from 4chan. Prove me wrong.
Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked
#154Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…
Are there any consequences for downloading these files? I’d like to learn best practices from a successful company — but not at existential risk.
Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked
#155Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…
I saw the payout pastebin, but i'm very curious what the amazon vs stream cut is for sub revenue in particular. This is the key thing steamers negotiate with twitch over, and is covered by the nda.
rumor was recently negotiations have been very cut and dry for newer big/up and coming streamers basically being told to take some algorithmically assigned cut or give up partner status.
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#156HN is vastly concerned about privacy and screaming about FB transgression on these issues etc., but the top post here is about disseminating private information of 10's of thousands of people.
You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It's out there now, might as well examine what you can learn from it and discuss it. FB is a business making conscious and deliberate decisions and can be called out on it in part because things like this can happen. I mean they just made such a massive goof that they completely took down their own site, other massive sites they owned, and locked their own employees out…
> might as well examine what you can learn from it and discuss it.
Thats the sort of high minded thing that WE might do here, but I worry about how this data is going to be weaponised against a whole bunch of people just trying to make a living from things they're passionate about.
I'm not a streamer (yet?) but I kind of see Twitch as this haven for a bunch of people who, until the advent of streaming, didn't really have an outlet, or an easy way to find like minded people, let alone (in some cases) make a living. I used to write off Twitch as a crazy fad that didn't make any sense to me. Then I spent a bit of time on there and realised what an awesome bunch of people (mainly) inhabit that place.
I feel very sorry for anyone caught up in this who goes onto experience some of the inevitable downsides. I can just see morons in the chat on various streams constantly bringing up how much the streamer earns (or doesn't earn) etc.
Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked
#157From another site a user commented that it might have proprietary modifications to ffmpeg which is LGPL/GPL (I think?). Would a leak be considered to be distribution, could others legally take these modifications and merge them into the upstream project?
I imagine other free software might have modifications too.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Amazon has even more money to throw at studios than Epic, so they can just force themselves into it.
The problem isn't the product. I was going to compete with Steam at one point and we had objectively better systems and a better client. The problem was the critical mass issue - no users, no publishers, neither want to join without the other. Amazon will definitely get publishers but will users join? That's not a given.
I would imagine they would attempt to secure exclusive rights to a popular title and only distribute it from their new platform. I believe that is what epic did when they launched their store.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't that the basis of the economy with the increasing wealth gap and so on? It's not really materially different to paying Disney millionaires to go watch the latest Marvel movie.
Maybe if viewed in a cynical way yes. At least when i donate to blue origin i get something tangible delivered to my door. Where is the value exchange in being one of 10k people building a faux-relationship with a hot tub streamer?
It's a service. Service is a product that is consumed when it's produced.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dozens? The 4chan post said "almost 6,000 internal Git repositories". We don't use git at work (TFS, yay), and we definitely aren't on their scale, but that seems high to me. Do they have a repo for every class? Is this normal?
If they use the common github approach of one fork per contributor, 6,000 repos accumulate quickly.
I've never worked in this way (when I've been part of the org), is it that common? What are the benefits of making everyone fork repos vs branching off the original repo?