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Post by the_third_wave »

dmos62 wrote: post #207
the_third_wave wrote: post #201

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Alternatively you host your videos on both your own Peertube site as well as Youtube and direct Youtube-visitors to either Peertube, Invidious [2] or - if they're using Android - NewPipe. If they are command-line savvy they can use youtube-dl or one of the mediaplayers which make use of its functionality (mpv, VLC, smplayer etc). In other words there are many ways to both have your cake and eat it here. Self-hosted P…

If only NewPipe had access to Google's recommendation engine (or its dataset). That's the only reason why I'm on youtube.com a lot.

Hm, I actually see this as an advantage of these alternative frontends since there is far less incentive to be pulled down some rabbit hole. Without recommendations and autoplay the thing just plays the video you point it at and stops without trying to entice you to stay just a bit longer [1].

[1] ...cue audio from that ancient C64 game: Another visitor, stay a while, stay FOREVER... https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Impossible_Mission

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helsinkiandrew wrote: post #132
dilap wrote: post #41

Andrew Kelley of Zig also moved away from YouTube because of forced ads ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz6xNO63mI ) YouTube is an amazing collection of knowledge, but it's unfortunate that it's in the hands of an entity whose primary goal and motivation is avarice. A degradation of the experience over time seems inevitable. How to organize human endeavors in a way that captures the innovation and superbly focused…

I hate YouTube ads and do my best to block them where I can, but let’s not forget that YouTube is serving a billion hours of video a day, which costs. If you don’t want ads to appear on your videos, you can host the videos on your own website and pay for the data or use another video service. Neither are likely to give the streaming performance or audience you’d get with YouTube.

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Post by Sr_developer »

maccard wrote: post #217
Sr_developer wrote: post #202

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> about 0.1c per month to store it, > 0.4c per view for bandwidth No. Those estimates are 1 order of magnitude wrong. You wouldnt even pay that much contracting the highest tiers in AWS/Azure/GC , let alone owning the infrastructure.

Those estimates are taken from the gcp pricing page [0] that say $0.02 (or 2c) per GB. Have you a source for your claim that I'm wrong? [0] https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing#price-tables

You are correct, I must have made a dumb mistake in my mental calculations

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helsinkiandrew wrote: post #132
dilap wrote: post #41

Andrew Kelley of Zig also moved away from YouTube because of forced ads ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz6xNO63mI ) YouTube is an amazing collection of knowledge, but it's unfortunate that it's in the hands of an entity whose primary goal and motivation is avarice. A degradation of the experience over time seems inevitable. How to organize human endeavors in a way that captures the innovation and superbly focused…

I hate YouTube ads and do my best to block them where I can, but let’s not forget that YouTube is serving a billion hours of video a day, which costs. If you don’t want ads to appear on your videos, you can host the videos on your own website and pay for the data or use another video service. Neither are likely to give the streaming performance or audience you’d get with YouTube.

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Post by Chris2048 »

crazygringo wrote: post #197
Chris2048 wrote: post #165

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> their business model .. wildly successful On what basis? They has an old model, build up the success of the platform, then changed the model. On what basis can we judge the new model successful versus the momentum of the old model?

> On what basis? Literally the line that says "YouTube ads" in their quarterly report? 2020 Q1 was $4 billion, 2021 Q1 was $6 billion. [1] Seems like wild success to me. But, you know, keep checking for the next few quarters if you're convinced Google is killing their golden goose. They've got some pretty smart business analysts and product people over there though, I wouldn't bet against them. [1] https://abc.xyz/in…

sure, but don't mind if I discount a pandemic year.

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Post by dredmorbius »

the_third_wave wrote: post #219
dredmorbius wrote: post #210

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Is Invidious anything other than a YouTube proxy? Is there Invidious-native content? (Mind: the proxy feature is quite usfeul. It's also ... limited and limiting.)

No, it is only a proxy. For native content Peertube is a good option, I've been running it for a few years without any real problems, starting out on a machine with a Pentium E2220 and 2GB of RAM (video transcoding was... slow... but once transcoded it worked fine), later moving to less anaemic hardware. Invidious is useful for more than just filtering out ads, it actually makes Youtube content useable on older hardw…

Thanks, that largely reflects my own experience.

The now-largely-unusable (thanks to API key limitations) mps-youtube command-line utility still remains the most useful interface to YouTube I've ever used:

- Runs without any browser at all.

- From a console.

- Without video, if you so specify.

- Enables full search, can be limited to music, includes both content and account search. That is, you can search for content matching terms, or for a username / account matching a term. Also playlists IIRC.

- Can play based on a given account's videos / postings.

- Individual items can be saved to a queue. Those may be ephemeral (session-only), or saved to disk.

- Content can be downloaded if preferred.

- No YouTube account required, no play history on YouTube.

YouTube apparently did all they could to kill this, and largely succeeded. I'd used it fairly extensively for my own preferred use of the site: finding lectures (and occasionally book-readings or similar content), and queuing up playlists or downloading archives of those. Works on absolutely minimal hardware.

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Post by anthk »

denimnerd42 wrote: post #102
SQueeeeeL wrote: post #96

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Wait, isn't YouTube premium this and basically no one uses it

I see a lot of negative about YT premium online but I've been using it for years.. I don't know how you can use the YT app on mobile without it.

Newpipe from FDroid.

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Post by anthk »

Crash0v3rid3 wrote: post #112
MikusR wrote: post #103

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https://vancedapp.com/

How about we stop pushing these alternatives that ensure creators never get paid? It’s hard work to make content, many channels are run full time. I know people hate ads, and if that’s the case, just pay for Premium.

>How about we stop pushing these alternatives that ensure creators never get paid?

My client, my computers, my rules.

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Post by anthk »

justbored123 wrote: post #168
dilap wrote: post #41

Andrew Kelley of Zig also moved away from YouTube because of forced ads ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz6xNO63mI ) YouTube is an amazing collection of knowledge, but it's unfortunate that it's in the hands of an entity whose primary goal and motivation is avarice. A degradation of the experience over time seems inevitable. How to organize human endeavors in a way that captures the innovation and superbly focused…

I have to ask the obvious question here: How do you plan to maintain the second largest website on the internet that has high bandwidth demands to serve 4k video content and serves 122 million users a day, 2+ billion a month if you are not willing to even tolerate simple adds that you can easily bypass in 1 minute of your time by installing an add blocker or downloading Brave browser or God forbid paying 10 dollars a…

I don't block ads, I just use a host file avoiding connections to sites I don't like to send metadata.

Ad blocking it's just a feature.

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Post by MonaroVXR »

robotnikman wrote: post #111
ghaff wrote: post #83

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Consumers need to be able and willing to pay money rather than renting their eyeballs. (And creators need to be willing to pay for hosting/discovery.) If YouTube could make more money as a gated subscription site that charged for uploads and, say, $100/year to access, they'd be more than happy to do so.

I remember way when youtube first started they had a premium subscription option which allowed you to upload longer and higher quality videos. If you didnt have a subscription you were limited to 10 minutes per video

I remember that too, good times. Anime series had A, B and C parts.
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