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No one who got Moderna's vaccine in trial developed severe Covid-19

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Re: No one who got Moderna's vaccine in trial developed severe Covid-19

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No I meant actually what I meant. Did you actually read the paper itself, which was supposed to be debunking the experiment? You probably should: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/095679761876166... It does not debunk anything, the effect does not vanish, it just diminshes to 1/3 of what was originally calimed. Which means, that within a single socieconomical group, the effect will still be quite noticeabl…

I have read the paper[1], and its discussion section supports the conclusions drawn by other readers, who are smarter than I am[2][3][4]. Here's one excerpt from the discussion: > "When considering how our results might inform intervention development, recall that models with con-trols for concurrent measures of cognitive skills and behavior reduced the association between delay of gratification and age-15 achievemen…

You absolutely did not pay the attention while reading. At age 15 indeed the association diminishes to almost zero; the original experiment never claimed otherwise. The original claim was that association is strong at early childhood; nonetheless it is pretty stupid to believe that a marshmallow is a sufficient reward for 15 years old person.

Re: No one who got Moderna's vaccine in trial developed severe Covid-19

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There a lot of comments that are being downvoted just for questioning different aspects of such a vaccine and other related issues. That's not what I have come to expect from a crowd of curious people carrying a scientific temper. C'mon HN. Let's answer the questions without downvoting someone to oblivion.

"people are allowed to be wrong and/or ignorant because that’s what most of us are on most topics"

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/th...

Re: No one who got Moderna's vaccine in trial developed severe Covid-19

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You're probably being downvoted because this information is easily looked up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine

Thanks! Yes I should have googled it myself as you mentioned. Silly me!

You've probably already seen it, but this [0] has served me well. We're all here to learn!

[0] http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Re: No one who got Moderna's vaccine in trial developed severe Covid-19

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The vaccine was developed in 48 hours (Feb 24th) following China sharing the DNA sequence. How many could we have saved?

There is plenty of reason to question the safety of mRNA vaccines because none have ever been approved for use in humans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine

Re: No one who got Moderna's vaccine in trial developed severe Covid-19

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Wonder what the trial exclusion criteria was...it’s not referenced in this article.

Yeah how would they find anyone careless enough aged more than 65 who would accept to

1/ take the vaccine

2/ expose himself to the virus to chekc his immunity.

We will never know before trial

Re: No one who got Moderna's vaccine in trial developed severe Covid-19

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The vaccine was developed in 48 hours (Feb 24th) following China sharing the DNA sequence. How many could we have saved?

The FDA needs to make a fast-track vaccine approval process for mRNA vaccines where the pathway to deliver the mRNA has been pre-approved and the only change is in the mRNA payload. However, I don't have much faith in the FDA.

Re: No one who got Moderna's vaccine in trial developed severe Covid-19

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note there is not a claim this vaccine prevents infection, only lessens symptoms, meaning you are still contagious. "We all expect an effective vaccine to prevent serious illness if infected. Three of the vaccine protocols—Moderna, Pfizer, and AstraZeneca—do not require that their vaccine prevent serious disease only that they prevent moderate symptoms which may be as mild as cough, or headache." "Prevention of infec…

Right, but are there any vaccines out there that protect against disease but don’t prevent transmission? I thought that’s what herd immunity was all about.

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