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Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by gadders » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 7:14 PM UTC

fakedang wrote: post #201

thaumasiotes wrote: post #185

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I have basically no background in the subject, but I'd be interested in your perspectives if you feel like answering any of these questions: - What are the United States' goals with respect to Iran? - What goals of Iran's are being hindered, objected to, or otherwise meddled with by the United States? - In the end, dictators know that the Western block is finicky, unstable, and short-termish; This makes it so that hi…

Not OP, not Iranian, but going by my Iranian friend, it's mostly as follows: - odd that you're asking an Iranian Qn#1. They don't know either - Iran wants to play a regional power in the Middle East, far greater than it is now. It is to be noted that many countries in the ME, such as the UAE, Qatar, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Bahrain have significant Shia minorities or majorities in some cases. When the Arab Spring hap…

Iran is also a state sponsor of terrorism (Hezbollah, Hamas), wants nuclear weapons and would destroy Israel if they could.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by SuoDuanDao » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 7:19 PM UTC

Dahoon wrote: post #155

dsabanin wrote: post #72

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Can't wait to see what Pax China is going to like!

Can't be worse.

The unfortunate thing is, while no one's really that happy with how the US is running things, they've probably been one of the least bad empires in history. (Post-slavery) America Vs. say Britain? I know what I'd prefer

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by fakedang » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 7:29 PM UTC

gadders wrote: post #221

fakedang wrote: post #201

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Not OP, not Iranian, but going by my Iranian friend, it's mostly as follows: - odd that you're asking an Iranian Qn#1. They don't know either - Iran wants to play a regional power in the Middle East, far greater than it is now. It is to be noted that many countries in the ME, such as the UAE, Qatar, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Bahrain have significant Shia minorities or majorities in some cases. When the Arab Spring hap…

Iran is also a state sponsor of terrorism (Hezbollah, Hamas), wants nuclear weapons and would destroy Israel if they could.

Which is just a part of playing the Middle Eastern powers game. The current five major powers in the region are Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and Iran. Out of them, one is rumored to be a nuclear power, three are delayed nuclear powers, while all but one are state sponsors of terrorism directly, and the last one sponsors them indirectly. Two of them want Israel destroyed, one is openly allied to Israel and one is secretly allied to Israel.

Yep, the Middle East is complicated.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by CIAvash » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 7:32 PM UTC

There are a lot of misinformation here. Nobody has to block Iranians. Look at GitHub, they limited Iranian accounts, not block them.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by ralph84 » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 7:36 PM UTC

lucb1e wrote: post #112

dijit wrote: post #84

Quick note that anyone using a US based cloud provider will likely be blocking all sanctioned countries. It’s not configurable at all. It was a sticking point for us when deploying the sequel to a game I was working on. Ultimately we determined that the benefits of using the provider outweighed the benefit to users since we weren’t shipping the game there officially anyway. (With one notable exception) It still leave…

> US based cloud provider Huh, I thought it was GitLab B.V. and that still exists[1], but Wikipedia says they're headquartered in the USA as of 2018[2] and the official "About" page[3] mentions Amsterdam, the Netherlands nor B.V., but does mention a "GitLab Inc.". The history on Wikipedia doesn't mention them having moved and still has the "Tech companies from the Netherlands" category (not sure if that's because the…

The minute they took money from US VCs they agreed to play by US rules.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by da39a3ee » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 7:39 PM UTC

bigbubba wrote: post #175

da39a3ee wrote: post #103

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You might want to delete the "and the citizenry did nothing wrong" ending to your otherwise reasonable post. I don't think you meant it the way it sounds.

What do you think the citizenry of Crimea did wrong?

Nothing; see my reply elsewhere in this thread. I meant the opposite of what you understood me to mean, but I can see why I was misunderstood.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by reducesuffering » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 7:44 PM UTC

fakedang wrote: post #223

gadders wrote: post #221

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Iran is also a state sponsor of terrorism (Hezbollah, Hamas), wants nuclear weapons and would destroy Israel if they could.

Which is just a part of playing the Middle Eastern powers game. The current five major powers in the region are Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and Iran. Out of them, one is rumored to be a nuclear power, three are delayed nuclear powers, while all but one are state sponsors of terrorism directly, and the last one sponsors them indirectly. Two of them want Israel destroyed, one is openly allied to Israel and one is…

Saudi Arabia is the open ally to Israel and UAE is the secret one?

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by dvtrn » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 7:55 PM UTC

joshmanders wrote: post #22

monkin wrote: post #17

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Putting post like that is nothing more than whining, as it doesn’t change anything. Want to do something better? Write some petitions, make a campaign or anything other, but bashing company that have to comply with US laws is just stupid. Sorry if this is unkindly and defeatist for you.

Exactly, want to do something? Complain to your government representatives, not Gitlab.

Second order thinking means both tactics have value and merit, right? If not, I am open to hearing why.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by ohmaigad » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 8:08 PM UTC

Gibbon1 wrote: post #217

0xy wrote: post #211

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FWIW the people of Crimea overwhelmingly support Russian occupation according to independent Pew surveys. Any sanctions only serve to punish Crimeans, presumably to appease the Ukraine government (which is just as corrupt as Russia).

My opinion, Crimea is a geopolitical nuance. Any cunning plan cooked up by a western leader that has to do with Crimea blows up in their face.

It is not a nuance, it is a terrible precedent showing that Russia can just come and take away a sovereign states territory. It is like a bigger tougher person coming into your home and starting to live there and there is nobody who is going to help you.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by dijit » Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 8:35 PM UTC

excieve wrote: post #184

What many don't seem to understand about Crimea, is that Crimea is an occupied territory of Ukraine [0] (as understood by UN, as well as most countries except the Russian Federation and several of its affiliated states). As an occupied territory, it doesn't have any legitimate institutions (such as a recognised government, banks, courts, etc.) — only a foreign occupation regime. Same way as Germany's Reichskommissari…

There are many examples of occupied territories which are not treated the same though.