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Japan’s lost generation is still jobless and living with their parents

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Post by JohnBooty »

T-R wrote: post #203
JohnBooty wrote: post #126

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I just realized something. I have no idea how one deals with the rest of the kanji one doesn't know. Upon encountering kanji one doesn't know, how does one find out the meaning? How would you "look it up?"

Kanji are composed from a much smaller set of radicals, so you look it up by the radicals that compose it. Some dictionaries also divide characters up by stroke count. For the past 15+ years, electronic dictionaries with handwriting recognition have been popular, and now you can just use your phone keyboard. In practice, sometimes you can also kind of guess at the pronunciation (since characters with the same main ra…

Thank you so much for this answer.

Re: Japan’s lost generation is still jobless and living with their parents

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Post by JohnBooty »

prewett wrote: post #189
JohnBooty wrote: post #126

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I just realized something. I have no idea how one deals with the rest of the kanji one doesn't know. Upon encountering kanji one doesn't know, how does one find out the meaning? How would you "look it up?"

Characters have a defined way of writing the strokes, so you look them up by number of strokes and radical. ("Radical" being, usually, the bit on the left or the top) You can see a web-based example at [2]. Click on the "Radicals" button in the upper right. You'll see a list of radicals (sorted by stroke order), and clicking/unclicking on them will cause the list of kanji below to change. [0] https://www.tofugu.com/j…

I truly appreciate this answer. Thank you very much.

Re: Japan’s lost generation is still jobless and living with their parents

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Post by Chyzwar »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #127

I feel like the "Jobless and living with parents" pejorative is missing the mark. Jobless -- So what? If a country has figured out how to provide for its people w/o jobs, so what? For example if we had perfect AI-robot slaves we'd all be jobless. Would it be a problem? Maybe we should ask people why they want a job, maybe what they want to do doesnt require one? "Living with their parents" - Again, so what? Much of t…

Problem is not that these people are not working. They never enter into adulthood. They do not have purpose/responsibility in theirs life. No spouse, children or anything to care. They will quickly develop mental problems and become homeless once parents die. They will become bigger problem than NEET generation in UK.

Re: Japan’s lost generation is still jobless and living with their parents

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Post by Chyzwar »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #205
mc32 wrote: post #171

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And what happens when their parents die and they cannot provide for themselves housing?

Yeah, that's really the crux of the problem: an inadequate safety net for these folks.

Problem is Japan culture that make difficult to re-enter workspace and find partner unless employed for life.

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Post by skim_milk »

LiquidSky wrote: post #218
skim_milk wrote: post #208

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>America desperately needs this So why the finger pointing like all the other commenters on HN? Go out and fix it! If this problem could be solved with some NOSQL, a Raspberry PI, and soldering, this forum would collectively rally behind the solution. But suddenly when a problem is deemed "social" our hands go in the air and it's not in my backyard? We're both techies, myself I'm pivoting my career into psychology 5…

The illusion of control and the ability to make a difference. It's why tech-minded people are notorious for trying to find clean technical solutions for messy social/political problems. It's comforting to feel you can reduce a vast societal problem to something you can tinker with in your living room and solve, and doing so also gives you a feeling of power and control.

Yes, I agree we should collectively work on real solutions to real problems. Clearly you understand that we need to encourage more tech workers to think deeper about it. Why not do this more positively? Being negative about how this forum can work hard to improve social tech is unproductive.

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Post by walshemj »

claudiawerner wrote: post #214
alxlaz wrote: post #159

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> What does this scenario represent that is _the actual problem_ of the matter? Among others: - Crippling depression for many of those who are jobless and living with their parents in a culture that is not exactly friendly to them. - An increased incidence of health issues that are correlated with depression and loneliness. - Decreased quality of life for elderly parents who need to support their children within the…

>Many of them don't want to be in the position they're in. I wonder what proportion. In some online circles, being a NEET is actually a bit of a badge of honor. In others (in fact, on both sides of the political spectrum), those working regular jobs (in particular low-paid jobs) are prejoratively referred to as wageslaves (or "wagie"). What's more, many hikikomori in Japan have developed pop-culture interests and spe…

NEET is an acronym that stands for "Not in Education, Employment, or Training - for those not familiar with the anacronym

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Post by offtop5 »

skim_milk wrote: post #208
offtop5 wrote: post #130

>Under Katsube’s direction, Junko also enrolled in a program that helps shut-ins learn social skills by engaging in activities such as gardening, music, sports, and volunteering. America desperately needs this. I fear the rise of social media has caused more and more people to stay inside all day without interacting with any real humans. I've found Meetup to work very well for getting out of the house. I did find it…

>America desperately needs this So why the finger pointing like all the other commenters on HN? Go out and fix it! If this problem could be solved with some NOSQL, a Raspberry PI, and soldering, this forum would collectively rally behind the solution. But suddenly when a problem is deemed "social" our hands go in the air and it's not in my backyard? We're both techies, myself I'm pivoting my career into psychology 5…

From my comment >I've found Meetup to work very well for getting out of the house.

That's already a technical solution to this problem.

I've seen startups which appear to be meetup alternatives as well.

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Post by asdff »

inglor_cz wrote: post #210
netcan wrote: post #21

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The obvious method would be to have more children.

Biology puts some limits on that. Fertility of women goes down in the fourth decade of life. The # of aneuploid ova rises sharply. It is possible that there will be scientific development solving that, but so far, we do not have enough young fertile people to practice your obvious method, unless they were ready to have 4+ kids each.

in vitro fertilization is the development you are looking for, and exists for those who can afford it.

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Post by asdff »

robjan wrote: post #26
bergstromm466 wrote: post #25

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> Japan in general is about 10 years behind the western world In which areas is Japan behind? What are some of your observations?

When was the last time you used a fax machine? We maintain one specifically for communicating with Japanese companies.

Last month when I had to fax my social security number to HR. Still in full force if you work in any sort of bureaucratic organization in the U.S...
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