Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

Post by robjan » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 5:40 AM UTC

free_rms wrote: post #186

khuey wrote: post #172

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That "X thousand years of history" is a myth Chinese people believe about themselves doesn't make it true or a useful way of understanding anything.

It's... literally true, you can look up photos of turtle shells with characters etched into them on Wikipedia. That doesn't mean they're perfect or blessed but they've definitely been there the whole time.

Post by executive » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 5:50 AM UTC

dirtyid wrote: post #191

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #106

Not even getting into the CCP ties, it's always struck me as unfair that Western social media companies are banned in China, while Chinese ones have been able to compete Worldwide. In a way this gives Chinese apps an immediate advantage (as some are indirectly calling out in this comment section). If you want to reach out to someone in China, you have to use a Chinese company's app. Since social media is mostly a win…

>unfair that Western social media companies are banned in China They're not. Bing has been in China forever. Western platforms could always compete in China if they assent to domestic censorship laws like every Chinese platform. That's "fair" considering how onerous and costly compliance is. Western platforms simply have not invested in the necessary mass human moderation until the last few years, after confronted wi…

Post by ac29 » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 5:54 AM UTC

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What’s to stop the US from blacklisting the PWA too?

The technical barrier. Maybe I'm ignorant, but I think Chrome & Firefox would put up a much bigger fight than App/Play Store. The latter is already a walled garden.

Post by justinzollars » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 5:58 AM UTC

khuey wrote: post #188

free_rms wrote: post #186

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It's... literally true, you can look up photos of turtle shells with characters etched into them on Wikipedia. That doesn't mean they're perfect or blessed but they've definitely been there the whole time.

Stonehenge is also between 4 and 5 thousand years old but it's not going to tell you anything about the mystical traditions of the people of the British Isles.

Post by justinzollars » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 6:02 AM UTC

khuey wrote: post #142

justinzollars wrote: post #115

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After reading many books on China I learned China values social stability over everything. In its 4,000 year history they have seen the dangers of social instability. We are a very young country and haven't seen what real chaos can look like. (These ideas are from Henry Kissinger's on China, Destined for War by Graham T. Allison and The China Dream by Liu Mingfu)

This is a typical orientalist take. Most of the world is well aware of "the dangers of social instability".