Playing around with the Fuchsia operating system

Post by Osiris » Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 1:44 AM UTC

cbeley wrote: post #209

RivieraKid wrote: post #79

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No. I mean a full-fledged alternative to the major operating systems. Do people in charge of Chrome OS say "In 5 years, we want developers, designers and project managers at Google use this OS"? I don't think so - it's not their ambition to compete with Mac OS or Linux.

I'm really enjoying ChromeOS for software dev. The Linux container is tightly integrated with the rest of the OS. On top of that I can run all my favorite Android apps as well, making it an excellent OS for personal use. One interesting example is that if I have a file I want to open, it doesn't matter if it's Chrome, Android, or Linux that has the executable to open it. I just click the file and it opens in the righ…

Post by CountSessine » Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 1:54 AM UTC

philistine wrote: post #214

close04 wrote: post #170

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> It’s a game of chicken and one Samsung can’t win Indeed, they most likely can't (easily) make Tizen a commercial success to rival Android, and even using an Android fork would still be far from ideal without Google's Play Services. But Google probably can't legally sustain this position for long and hold OEMs hostage, especially with all the antitrust scrutiny they are facing now. Conditioning access to the Play Se…

My understanding was not that a manufacturer had to use a Google OS on all their devices, but that they could not ship Android without Google services. So Samsung can (and has in minuscule quantities) ship a Tizen phone. Or a Windows phone. They just cannot ship an AOSP phone.

Post by jack1243star » Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 2:13 AM UTC

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #216

padraic7a wrote: post #203

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Sandboxing in Linux is developing with both Snaps and Flatpaks. Linux really does miss an SDK though. Realistically if you target Ubuntu you'll reach the majority of Linux users but the community of power users (ugh, hate that phrase but can't think of a better one) and developers is scattered any number of desktops and Linux varients.

We build and package Ardour, a cross-platform DAW, as a single installable for every version of Linux except nixOS. Same installer, same package. Every version of Linux (except nixOS). I am not sure what you are talking about.

Post by amarshall » Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 2:18 AM UTC

heavyset_go wrote: post #182

RivieraKid wrote: post #57

I'm more excited about the possibility of a high quality desktop OS rather than the kernel. The Linux kernel is great but a great open-source desktop OS doesn't exist today. Specifically, this product doesn't exist today: - Desktop environment that matches or surpasses Mac OS in quality, performance and UX design. - It includes seamless synchronization between devices. - Apps are sandboxed, similarly to Android or iO…

> Desktop environment that matches or surpasses Mac OS in quality, performance and UX design. I've got Plasma setup to take advantage of a decade of Mac muscle memory, and think it does "macOS" better than macOS itself. > Apps are sandboxed, similarly to Android or iOS Install firejail, and its wrapper scripts. The wrapper will automatically wrap common commands and apps in a sandbox, and you can use the firejail CLI…

Post by nmfisher » Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 2:21 AM UTC

cletus wrote: post #31

Ah, Fuchsia... another of Google's solutions looking for a problem. I remember hearing about it and immediately asking "what is the market for this?" and not being satisfied with the answer. On the one side you have Samsung, who are unhappy enough with their dependence on Google that they'll not likely eat the cost of moving from Android to something else that has no strategic benefit to them (as far as I could tell,…