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The problem is many have been living for generations without any documentation. How are they supposed to prove?
As clearly said before, If one is living in India for more than 11 years, under CAB they will be considered as Indian citizens.
And how do you prove that? And after proving, what is the guarantee that it is going to be remembered? What is the guarantee that after it is remembered once, it will be kept that way?
Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed's nephew was left out of the NRC for the second time. We can't even get our electoral rolls correct repeatedly; people who have voted from the same area for 40+ years are left out mysteriously.
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#223> why base it on religion? Because religion matters. In this case, islam has a millenarian, worldwide record of massacring non-muslims so it doesn’t seem far fetched to impose boundaries based on this criterion. Also the Pakistan+Bangladesh/India partition was made on this religious clivage, so muslims have two others countries to choose from. As someone who almost lost a friend in a jihadist terror attack, I’m reall…
During the crusades it was the crusaders who massacred muslims when they took Jerusalem. When Saladeen retook it, he did not massacre anyone and turned out to be more civilised by the christians.
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#225It's rare to see such rabid government propaganda on HN, like some of the posts in this thread. The activity in this thread is comparable to pro-government posts seen on threads about Chinese internment camps and the Social Credit System. There are plenty of disgusting comments to peruse here, though I'd like to highlight this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21823490 > I don't really understand where the ge…
Every time there is a thread about the Indian government doing something questionable, there are people here ready to justify it and defend the government.
I called out these pro-government accounts pretty heavily in a thread sometime back and my comments got flagged on basis of not providing references and calling their comments as propaganda. How much of references can you provide when you know the person is just sending you on a wild goose chase. And the comments are propaganda, repeating governmental lies.
One of the comment declared openly, "I am a Hindu, I am a Nationalist, hence I am a Hindu nationalist" - which is a straight lift-off of Indian PM Modi's interview [1]. BTW Modi conducted 2002 Gujarat massacre and got banned from entering US until he became Indian PM.
Read the Reuters interview from 2013 [1], and with remarkable clarity he lays down his religious fundamentalism on table. Now that he runs India, he is acting on these designs quite openly.
[1] http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2013/07/12/interview-with-bjp...
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#226For those of you supporting the government's take on this, and their argument that proper documentation is all it takes for being included in the NRC, how do you care to explain that the family of the former president of India 'Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed' was left out of NRC? CAB is just an anti-muslim filter, and it's downright unethical. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/former-president-fakhr... Edit: If CAB was tru…
Rohingyas are mostly Hindus?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-e...
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#227This is horrible treatment and will ruin the lives of millions. How can we not learn from mistakes in our past and grow as a global community
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sectarian conflict isn't religious persecution? Most of the other religious minorities, just like Ahmadis and some Shia groups are persecuted via the same Pakistan's blasphemy laws.
Yes, it's not same and is something akin to India's caste discrimination. Besides, it complicates things. Tomorrow, what if the Pakistani state declares Wahabis and Salafists as non-Islamic? Do we pass an amendment to accommodate them too?
If your aim is to protect all people against religious persecution, of course you should keep your list of persecuted groups up to date and extend protection to Wahhabis and Salafists if they need it. Ideally, that process shouldn't require amending the original law, but only a judicial decision that (whatever specific actions are taken against the persecuted group) constitute religious discrimination according to the criteria outlined in the law.
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#229For those of you supporting the government's take on this, and their argument that proper documentation is all it takes for being included in the NRC, how do you care to explain that the family of the former president of India 'Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed' was left out of NRC? CAB is just an anti-muslim filter, and it's downright unethical. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/former-president-fakhr... Edit: If CAB was tru…
To your question of religion based immigration, this ignores crucial background - After the Partition in 1947, there were Hindus and other minorities who remained in Pakistan(including current Bangladesh) and Muslims in India. There was the Nehru-Liaquat pact which curtailed further exchange of population provided the minorities were safeguarded.
This agreement was drastically violated, especially in the 1971 war when Pakistan Army deliberately targeted Hindus.
This site run by Muslim Bangladeshis documents some details http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/
This lead to a mass exodus of Bangladeshi Hindus to India. In fact, the Communist Party, advocated for their citizenship status much before Modi came to power.
There has been further persecution of Hindus, both in Pakistan and Bangladesh
https://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2018/06/05/bangladeshi-profes...
Also, regarding Myanmar, note that this act also doesnt give refugee status to Hindus who are also being persecuted in Myanmar. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-e...
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#230Islam is a curse on this world.