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MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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> largest battery legally possible on a laptop What do you mean by "legally possible on a laptop"? My current machine (some rugged mobile power house) got 120Wh and I really don't wanna get arrested. Please enlighten me.

It's not allowed to take more than 100wh in carry-on flight luggage (in some countries).

no way tsa checks

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Seriously, fuck off, Apple. Gluing and rivets - does this actually accomplish any kind of real measurable cost-saving or just introduce bullshit vendor lock-in? Same deal for soldered RAM. Pro-tip for everyone wanting to LEAVE Tim Cook's sinking hardware ship: Buy a Dell XPS 15, install Linux and enjoy being able to: 1. Upgrade your own RAM 2. Install a second 2.5" SSD 3. Being able to easily remove components from t…

I just want to use my computer, not playing computer tech with it.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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I went with my gf to take a look at these last night at the Apple store. Her command key has completely stopped working on her 2018 MacBook that otherwise works perfectly fine. It feels clumsily large, especially since we’re coming from MacBook 13s. She kept asking me if I’d heard any rumors about when new 13s would come out. She went in pretty determined to get a new machine but decided to wait. The struggle continu…

Huh?? 64gb of ram, bigger screen, much more powerful GpU, bigger storage options, better thermals, better microphone, better speakers, bigger battery...it’s definitely not just “the same CPU” and a fixed keyboard”...not sure what else did you expect?

The 64GB of ram alone makes the new 16" a completely different machine. It really can't even be compared to the previous generations. 64 opens up a lot of possibilities in the media creation space that, realistically, were just not there with 32, and were pretty much impossible with 16 gig.

Given a choice, I would much rather have had the 64 gig rather than a new keyboard. A keyboard you can put a cover on. There's no mitigating 16 gig.

With this release however, Apple chose to give us both, as well as a GPU with 8. So yeah, the machine is a significant upgrade. Anyone saying otherwise is probably in a demographic where they really don't need the GPU or the extra ram. So they don't see the value in them.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Call me crazy but I must be the only person who enjoys typing on the old butterfly keyboard. Yes I was one of those people who originally thought the travel was too small but after using it for a couple hours I found the low travel was a huge relief to Carpal Tunnel and I also typed much faster. Maybe I have the only keyboard that “works” but I love me some butterfly keyboards.

I've used 3 different MacBooks since 2016 with the butterfly keyboards (upgrading to newer models as they came out), never had a problem with any. Granted, I always use a "keyboard condom" anyway no matter what (because I hate the inevitable stains that no keyboard is immune to), maybe that saved me?

The Touch Bar can also be pretty handy, especially if you customize it with third-party apps like BetterTouchTool. I certainly use it more than I ever used F# keys.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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This is something I don't get. It would have been reasonable to design the keybord that it can be exchanged, even if it some effort. While I like the improvents of this iteration, it shouldn't be that unrepairable. A MB Pro is an expensive device, but that is ok, if you get the appropriate quality. Making the machine a write off, if there is a problem after the mandatory Apple-care runs out, does mean it is much less…

They do it for stiffness, which does improve the typing experience.

Screws are no less stiff than rivets.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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post #188

I went with my gf to take a look at these last night at the Apple store. Her command key has completely stopped working on her 2018 MacBook that otherwise works perfectly fine. It feels clumsily large, especially since we’re coming from MacBook 13s. She kept asking me if I’d heard any rumors about when new 13s would come out. She went in pretty determined to get a new machine but decided to wait. The struggle continu…

I recently bought a used 2015 13inch MPB. Extremely happy.

I am generally not a lucky person, but after hearing all these horror stories of 2016+ MBPs, it's obvious that I really lucked out when I bought my 13" MBP in fall of 2015, which I'm using right now to make this post. I've only had to service it once to get the "logic board" replaced, which cost me something like $600 last winter, but it was pretty obvious that it was still the best option after comparing to the newer MBPs and many other laptops. I'll be a sad panda when this bad boy becomes unrepairable.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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post #82

Those half sized up/down cursor keys - does nobody within Apple use spreadsheets? I get that it's not their primary audience but surely of all the keys you'd want to mini-fy cursor would be one of the last?

I love them. You gotta come off the home row to find them, better make it easy.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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I went with my gf to take a look at these last night at the Apple store. Her command key has completely stopped working on her 2018 MacBook that otherwise works perfectly fine. It feels clumsily large, especially since we’re coming from MacBook 13s. She kept asking me if I’d heard any rumors about when new 13s would come out. She went in pretty determined to get a new machine but decided to wait. The struggle continu…

Coming from a 15” 2013, the 16” still feels clumsily large and not portable. I want to hold out for a 14” but it will like have a gimped processor. Why can no one get this right ...

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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It's not allowed to take more than 100wh in carry-on flight luggage (in some countries).

no way tsa checks

is saline solution exempt from tsa fluid limitations or is it bottles that say saline solution

Ask a high school dropout!

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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post #220

I went with my gf to take a look at these last night at the Apple store. Her command key has completely stopped working on her 2018 MacBook that otherwise works perfectly fine. It feels clumsily large, especially since we’re coming from MacBook 13s. She kept asking me if I’d heard any rumors about when new 13s would come out. She went in pretty determined to get a new machine but decided to wait. The struggle continu…

Huh?? 64gb of ram, bigger screen, much more powerful GpU, bigger storage options, better thermals, better microphone, better speakers, bigger battery...it’s definitely not just “the same CPU” and a fixed keyboard”...not sure what else did you expect?

I specifically brought up the speakers as the key differentiator beyond the keyboard, so I find it really weird to include in your list of things I “missed” about this computer.

Beyond that, I address most of the others in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21570906

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