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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by zyang »

readams wrote: post #189
zyang wrote: post #170

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Tesla builtin maps use TomTom, which is low quality compare to Google Maps or the new Apple Maps. I find it to be the biggest turn-off.

No it's Google Maps for both navigation directions and map data. There are some features from the Android google maps app not supported on the Tesla, but otherwise it's the same.

That would be false. They might have moved to osm recently, but Tesla’s basemap has been TomTom since ‘17. Google data might have been used for POI, but never for basemap or navigation.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by vageli »

slg wrote: post #162
teachrdan wrote: post #138

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Try parking in a handicapped spot and see what happens; some laws clearly do apply in a parking lot.

If we are going to be pedantic about this, and you pretty much have to be given the topic, a parking violation is not considered a traffic violation. Obviously a private parking lot isn't some completely lawless place, but many (most?) traffic laws don't apply there.

> If we are going to be pedantic about this, and you pretty much have to be given the topic, a parking violation is not considered a traffic violation. Obviously a private parking lot isn't some completely lawless place, but many (most?) traffic laws don't apply there.

So you can drive like 50 mph or do donuts, violate crosswalks with pedestrians in them, etc? Does your jurisdiction have no laws on reckless driving, exhibition of motor, etc?

Sure the stop sign might not be the legal height required by your roadway authority but see if that stops a cop from citing you if you blow through it without observing traffic (aka drive recklessly).

Hell, I know people who have received seat belt tickets while operating a motor vehicle in a parking lot.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by rubidium »

steelframe wrote: post #202
pmarreck wrote: post #152

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Fair enough, sometimes the food selection is limited to fast food or fast-food-like.

The one time I took my Model X on a road trip (before I sold it and bought a PHEV), one of the stops was in Lima, Montana. The greasy spoon restaurant in that dirt parking lot was... an experience.

Perhaps a “how the other half lives” one...?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by rainyMammoth »

leesec wrote: post #214
Shivetya wrote: post #199

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Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment.

But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it.

It is a pattern I see with nearly all the other TM3 owners that dismiss every single issue.

Really trying to understand but what is so different with a Tesla? Is it the Hype factor? The feeling to be in a religious group?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by notJim »

ratsbane wrote: post #212
notJim wrote: post #151

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I strongly prefer to camp in the NF right outside the park or in the park itself, so that rules out the RV campgrounds. I think the L2 stuff you're seeing is in the Seattle metro, there's nothing near Rainier. I'm coming from Portland, so it'd be way out of my way to go to Seattle.

Hmm, now I'm thinking about how I would plan a trip like that... Google Maps shows 139 miles from Portland to Mt. Rainier. My Model 3 (long-range, RWD) has about 306 miles range at the moment (after 42,000 miles) so I could almost go there and back without charging, but altitude changes and low temperatures will crimp the range a bit. Are you familiar with Alexander's Lodge? ( https://alexanderslodge.com/ ) It looks…

Yeah, Alexander's Lodge comes up a fair amount when I was researching this. Overall, the trip is like, barely doable, but then you have to consider that from Ohanapecosh (one of the major campgrounds) to Sunrise (where a lot of hikes start) is 30 miles, so in a 2-day trip, that could easily be an extra 60-120 miles of driving. On longer 3 or 4 day trips, I've sometimes needed to drive out of the park to Packwood to fuel up, because the park is so spread out. BTW, when I was looking in A Better Route Planner, it recommended driving up to the supercharger in Centralia, or even driving all the way up around to Enumclaw (IIRC), which is way out of the way.

The ideal (for me anyway) would really be to have a supercharger (or other fast charging) at Sunrise, and ideally one in Packwood as well. Or forgot the whole enterprise altogether and put in a bus service like Zion has.

Of course, Rainier is only one example. Once you get into Eastern Oregon, the charging situation is even worse.

I would hope that if we get a more forward-thinking government in the next few years that we start thinking about this kind of stuff, because thinking about the carbon impact of "enjoying nature" is pretty bleak stuff. I'm actually interested in this problem enough that I've started to look at the economics of building charging stations (demand charges!)

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by lallenus »

Dibes wrote: post #219
binaryblitz wrote: post #216

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Someone is grumpy that either A: they can't afford a Telsa, or B: their car is slower than a cheaper Tesla.

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. Part availability is a valid complaint about tesla. This seems to just be a blatant attack on the poster for no reason.

It seems justified though. The person before them was speaking from an overly emotional perspective.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by vel0city »

tempestn wrote: post #200
dreamcompiler wrote: post #191

So glad they've made it possible to watch Netflix and Youtube and play games on the screen. Those things are exactly what I'm looking for in a car operating system. After all, I can't do any of those with my phone.

So glad I can watch Netflix and Youtube and play games on my phone. After all I can't do any of those with my computer.

I am not always around my computer. I almost always have my phone around while in my car.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #225
leesec wrote: post #214

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Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

I’m not a Tesla owner but it does seem to me that buying in to the company that has single handedly changed the landscape of electric vehicles is a pretty exciting notion. I’d be happier to have a vehicle built on seemingly better principles and support the company even if they’re not perfect. But then I use Linux even though it’s difficult at times because what I am using is more important than any specific flaws it has.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by damon_c »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #225
leesec wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

It's not that complicated. Drive one and you will see that they are pretty different from any other car in a number of ways.
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