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China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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Hopefully they find some carbon in the crust. Only traces have been found so far on the moon.

Unfortunately the likelihood of life on Moon is next to nothing (if that's what you are implying by carbon). Remember, we have some ~900 lbs of moon rock we brought back with Apollo that we have studied. By all accounts the moon is just a dead ball of dust. There isn't even tectonic activity. The little water is trapped as frozen ice in rocks. No atmosphere means constant bombardment by radiation and temperature differentials are in hundreds of degrees. It's as inhospitable as it gets.

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The story behind Chang'e is also interesting. Essentially, she is the wife of a legendary hero, Hou Yi(后羿), who saved the mankind from dying of drought due to the presence of nine Suns, by shooting all but one of them down. Chang'e stole the Immortal Pill, and eat it alone without her husband knowing. After she ate it, her body became to float and she flied to the moon, to live there alone forever as her punishment,…

And to add to that the relay satellite is named Queqiao (鹊桥, Megapie Bridge). It is how the separated lovers Zhinv (织女, Vega) and Niulang (牛郎, Altair) meet once every year. Zhinv is the seventh daughter of the Yuhuangdai (the god of gods, like Zeus), and fell in love with human Niulang. After discovering with anger, Wuangmuniangniang (wife of Yuhuangdadi, like Hera) separated the two with the Milky Way. Touched by th…

Most of Chinese think Yuhuangdadi(玉皇大帝) and Wangmuniangniang(王母娘娘) are husband&wife, they work together to control all the gods(gods are not like western gods, they have 仙 and 神), but there are multiple versions of myths(books) and rumors mentioning them, none of them tells the relationship of them for sure, we can only deduce their relationship from the context. From different versions of sources, they can be: 1. husband&wife, 2. colleagues, 3. sister&brother, 4. mother&son.

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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Israel and India may be sending landers to the Moon too. India has sent orbiters to the Moon and Mars. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Orbiter_Mission_2 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrayaan-2 An Israeli group got pretty far with an entry in the lunar lander XPrize. But the prize reached its deadline dates and expired. I hear they may be shopping for a deep space launch vehicle.

Who better to build Moon settlements than the Israeli.

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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FTA: "In addition to its value as a scientific exploration target, the Moon’s quiet, airless far side makes it one of the best places in the inner solar system for science applications like radio astronomy." It what way is any part of the moon not "quiet and airless" ?

The sun is really loud. [0] But in all seriousness, it produces a lot of radio signals. So it is completely accurate to call it loud. The moon doesn't have a magnetic core so it doesn't produce its own noise like Earth does. [0] https://youtu.be/Rvvsw21PgIk?t=17

The sun shines on the "dark side" just as much as it shines on the near side.

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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From the NYT article [0] on the topic: "We Chinese people have done something that the Americans have not dared try.” -- someone associated with the Chinese space agency Why so insecure? Not a good look. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/world/asia/china-change-4...

Just another flamebait article as pretty much all articles about China in US owned media these days.

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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"...and if the dam breaks open many years too soon..." Perhaps interesting to note the origin of this name for spacecraft. The legend "Chang'e flies to the moon" (嫦娥奔月) lies behind the Mid-Autumn Festival (featuring mooncakes, as it were). Point is, the names of Chinese space missions are every bit as carefully steeped in tradition as, say, Mercury/Gemini/Apollo.

The legend "Chang'e flies to the moon" (嫦娥奔月) lies behind the Mid-Autumn Festival (featuring mooncakes, as it were). Point is, the names of Chinese space missions are every bit as carefully steeped in tradition as, say, Mercury/Gemini/Apollo. The People's Republic of China doesn't think of itself as a "Nation State." Instead, it thinks of itself as a "civilization state." A part of PRC's self appointed charge is to p…

Well, it is actually a shame. And by that I mean why wouldn't it benefit anyone to gain access to what is probably as much writing about philosophy, history, etc. as what one is currently exposed to?

You should also keep in mind that the people that are saying this to you have already learned a complete another language and alphabet (since they are presumably communicating with you in English).

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The story behind Chang'e is also interesting. Essentially, she is the wife of a legendary hero, Hou Yi(后羿), who saved the mankind from dying of drought due to the presence of nine Suns, by shooting all but one of them down. Chang'e stole the Immortal Pill, and eat it alone without her husband knowing. After she ate it, her body became to float and she flied to the moon, to live there alone forever as her punishment,…

> with only one rabbit being her companion. So that's why one of their rovers was called "Jade Rabbit"

The "moon rabbit" [0] is a rather popular interpretation of the Moons surface in Asian folklore.

Japanese/Korean people believe the rabbit is pounding the ingredients for rice cake.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rabbit

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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"...and if the dam breaks open many years too soon..." Perhaps interesting to note the origin of this name for spacecraft. The legend "Chang'e flies to the moon" (嫦娥奔月) lies behind the Mid-Autumn Festival (featuring mooncakes, as it were). Point is, the names of Chinese space missions are every bit as carefully steeped in tradition as, say, Mercury/Gemini/Apollo.

The story behind Chang'e is also interesting. Essentially, she is the wife of a legendary hero, Hou Yi(后羿), who saved the mankind from dying of drought due to the presence of nine Suns, by shooting all but one of them down. Chang'e stole the Immortal Pill, and eat it alone without her husband knowing. After she ate it, her body became to float and she flied to the moon, to live there alone forever as her punishment,…

And the rover, Yutu(玉兔) is the jade rabbit, who pounds a mortar and pestle in Guanghan Palace on the moon. She later escapes to earth and Chang'e brings her back to the moon in 西遊記 (Journey to the West) right before Sun Wukong (孫悟空; japanese reading: Son Gokū; yes, like in Dragonball, heavily based on 西遊記) defeats her.

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China releases photos from first-ever mission to land on the dark side of the moon https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-dark-side-moon-china-...

Is there a way around the paywall for business insider?

Just open the link in an incognito tab.

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sun is really loud. [0] But in all seriousness, it produces a lot of radio signals. So it is completely accurate to call it loud. The moon doesn't have a magnetic core so it doesn't produce its own noise like Earth does. [0] https://youtu.be/Rvvsw21PgIk?t=17

The sun shines on the "dark side" just as much as it shines on the near side.

Think about what you just said, in context of why one side is light and one is dark. Where does the light come from?
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