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Tim Berners-Lee wins Turing Award

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Post by thejohnhenry »

madamelic wrote: post #190
jrochkind1 wrote: post #120

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I don't see what would make basic facebook history hard to move around. Facebook of course already offers a "Download a copy of your Facebook data" function. Future-facebook could import it, or the most fundamental/basic parts of it, probably -- the problem is not the data itself, but the connections in it to other users, it's not that valuable without it. I suspect there isn't much interest from users in things-tryi…

>I suspect there isn't much interest from users in things-trying-to-be-facebook of importing the data. And the legalities of that. FB did a major legal smackdown on someone trying to do that.

Do you have a link to the history here? Would love to hear about it.

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Post by chrisseaton »

michalskop wrote: post #215
nojvek wrote: post #95

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I've never quite figured out how sirs work. I know Knights were addressed with sirs and the Queen had something to do with it, but how does it work in a multicultural UK?

I've never understood why people (particularly outside UK) care about some "sirs" at all. "Mr. Tim Berners-Lee" sounds just fine to me.

Why use a title at all if you're going to use the wrong one?

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Post by gkya »

chubot wrote: post #168
madiathomas wrote: post #14

This goes to show how hard winning Turing award is. One would have expected someone who invented the most useful invention of the 20th century to have won this award long time ago. Maybe I am just overvaluing www because of the impact it had on people's lives. EDITED: 20th century, not 19th.

I always felt that Tim Berners-Lee was not respected enough in both the computer science and programming communities. I felt it especially after working for over a decade at Google, which literally built its entire business on TBL's architectural concepts. For example, Google and other search engines would not work without the principle of least power [1], which a lot of people, including Alan Kay [2], somehow don't…

Torvalds didn't add anything to CS. He just wrote a Unix-like kernel. The kernel took off and the project grew to include thousands of devs and became the biggest OSS project ever, but still, it's a kernel, not much different in essence from any old Unix kernel. Git? Again, popular project, nothing new. It was even started contemporaneously with Mercurial, which is essentially equal to it, and both are no new inventions at all, DVCS was here since the 90's.

Stallman did Emacs in whose invention AFAIK he did take part, and then he took part in implementing some other innovative projects, though I don't really know his CS career (I mostly know him as the face of GNU and FSF).

IDK but having created a popular project should not be equal to a big innovation in the field.

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Post by Cyph0n »

aanm1988 wrote: post #217
madiathomas wrote: post #179

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Same here. I will rather win that prestigous award.

I'd take the money. You can't take either with you and with a billion dollars I could get more than a few things named after me.

Things which will likely all be forgotten. Name 10 billionaires from the 19th century. Now try naming 10 scientists.

Go with the Turing Award if you want to be remembered.

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Post by losvedir »

seejay wrote: post #59
seejay wrote: post #22

Holly crap! Congratulations woman!!!

I don't understand the minus points here. Did I piss a bunch of people off? I genuinely loved OPs comment here (gave it an upvote). So instead of saying "woman" here If I just "assumed" he is a man and said congratulations "man" or "bro" would I get plus points?

Ha, yeah, I'm a man. I think if people knew you're not a native speaker they'd have cut you more slack. While "man" can be used in an informal and friendly way ("congratulations man!" wouldn't have raised any eyebrows), "woman" doesn't work that way. Instead, it comes across as sexist, since the only time you hear it is a chauvinistic man bossing a woman around ("dammit, woman, get over here!"). I admit it doesn't make sense, but there's English for ya.

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Post by samstave »

Reading the comments here and being a netizen since internets inception is weird;

Wtf do we want?????

We want privacy, anonymity but also credibility and our ego boosted.

Fuck the government fuck spying, but acknowledge how awesome I am... all at the same time. So pick fucking one!

So... I propose the following internet user-name platform where only users who know you IRL can vote on your comments

We removed downs and vote counts from hn and reddit - so let's only allow ppl to vote on anything you say If they know you irl

Yeah that idea won't go over well, but fuck .gov censorship whilst claiming all they claim

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Post by guilhas »

seejay wrote: post #26
sametmax wrote: post #2

And soon will win the big brother award for accepting DRM ?

I also couldn't help but wonder why this suddenly happened after TBL making news merely a few weeks ago.

It can be difficult to make those decisions. But I would say TBL is definitely worried about the future of internet. (Decentralized Web Summit - From The Internet Archive) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yth7O6yeZRE

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Post by icc97 »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #173
XJOKOLAT wrote: post #159

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History should be decentralized too, then. Who remembers RSS feeds? I miss those days. We should have some superior spin on that but for social networks. Imagine Facebook, but your history/data were your own property. A friend would find you on Facebook, or Ello, or AnythingAnyWhereBook ... add your feed, and done. Then it is up to the Social Networks to make a superior product for you to enjoy your friends data and…

What do you miss about RSS feeds? They're still there... It's very rare that I come across a blog that doesn't have one, even now...

My RSSing calmed down, it's just the XKCD feed now. But it still works perfectly.

Intruigingly given how many RSS feeds are out there from WordPress blogs, about the only way I found to get news on WordPress releases is via their RSS feed.

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Post by aanm1988 »

Cyph0n wrote: post #224
aanm1988 wrote: post #217

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I'd take the money. You can't take either with you and with a billion dollars I could get more than a few things named after me.

Things which will likely all be forgotten. Name 10 billionaires from the 19th century. Now try naming 10 scientists. Go with the Turing Award if you want to be remembered.

Trick question.

> Forbes magazine updates a complete global list of known U.S. dollar billionaires every year. John D. Rockefeller became the world's first confirmed U.S. dollar billionaire in 1916

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Post by nostrademons »

gkya wrote: post #218
shurcooL wrote: post #207

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This is why I'm a fan of the indie web ( https://indieweb.org/ ).

I'm sorry if this has to do with my sleepiness, but from that page I don't understand at all what this is. A kind of social CMS? A bloggers community? The page is rich in word count but poor in being informative. I'd be very grateful if somebody could give a little explanation of what this is, because, it seems to be an interesting thing.

IndieWeb is a social movement rather than any one particular technology or project. It's a group of people that believe in publishing as the web was originally intended: a diverse network of participating individuals, not corporations, bound by open standards. There are a number of projects under the general Indieweb banner or just sharing the IndieWeb principles.
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